What fast-food restaurant did you like growing up that SUCKS now?

[bcoop]

The chicken breast of a chicken sandwich is what I was thinking.

pre cooked, rethermed in store.


To clear up any confusion, what I mean by that, is they buy precooked chicken breast. It's already been cooked to a safe internal temperature, is then frozen. Then in the store, they rethermalize it, so it's warm. This takes the major part of the food safety out of it, and keeps them from getting sued for serving a half raw chicken sandwich. It's brilliant from their standpoint. Limit liability, limit issues caused by human error, etc. Efficiency, consistency, everything goes way up. They are able to reduce kitchen square footage, because they don't need as much room for prep, they can do the entire menu around fewer pieces of equipment, etc. Kitchens are overhead to a restaurant. They want the smallest kitchen they can have, because the smaller the kitchen is, the larger they can make their dining room. More tables = more profit. Smaller kitchen = smaller overhead.


But, quality suffers. There is no substitute for fresh. There just isn't.

[mstng86]

Again, this is why I prefer to eat at the smaller operations, places with actual Chefs, not just cooks that are warming up soup in a bag, etc.

or cook your own shit. We eat at home about 90% of the time now.

[bcoop]

Not that I eat there alot to begin with, but thanks for fucking up another place for me...

I'm not picking on anyone in particular. This is the way the entire industry has gone. I could throw out 100+ other names that do the exact same thing.


Again, this is why I prefer to eat at the smaller operations, places with actual Chefs, not just cooks that are warming up soup in a bag, etc.

[slow99]

My bad, lying by omission I guess. Burgers are cooked in store. But they are from a frozen patty, not fresh like they used to be years ago. With a sandwich you aren't really cooking anything though. Toasting the bread, or melting cheese, but it's technically not cooking from raw to done.

The chicken breast of a chicken sandwich is what I was thinking.

[bcoop]

If I go into a Chili's I won't see sandwiches and burgers etc. being cooked on the grill anymore? That's fucking bizarre.

My bad, lying by omission I guess. Burgers are cooked in store. But they are from a frozen patty, not fresh like they used to be years ago. With a sandwich you aren't really cooking anything though. Toasting the bread, or melting cheese, but it's technically not cooking from raw to done.

[Rick Modena]

Chicken crispers are fresh and breaded in store. Ribs are fresh and cooked in store. SW egg rolls aren't made in store, but they aren't precooked, so those are fried in store. There's a couple other items cooked fresh, but probably 80% of their menu is simply rethermalized.

Not that I eat there alot to begin with, but thanks for fucking up another place for me...

[slow99]

Chicken crispers are fresh and breaded in store. Ribs are fresh and cooked in store. SW egg rolls aren't made in store, but they aren't precooked, so those are fried in store. There's a couple other items cooked fresh, but probably 80% of their menu is simply rethermalized.

If I go into a Chili's I won't see sandwiches and burgers etc. being cooked on the grill anymore? That's fucking bizarre.

[bcoop]

So true. we ended up in a chili's a month ago and somehow my wife got on the subject of her food not being fresh to the waitress, and the waitress let us know its all just thrown on a conveyor system. None of it is fresh. Oh, awesome.
This is kind of why I really like the idea of hibatchi. i know that shit is fresh. I SEENED IT WITH MY OWN 2 EYES!!!

Chicken crispers are fresh and breaded in store. Ribs are fresh and cooked in store. SW egg rolls aren't made in store, but they aren't precooked, so those are fried in store. There's a couple other items cooked fresh, but probably 80% of their menu is simply rethermalized.

[Slowhand]

A1 or Heinz 57? I'm an A1 guy.

Bait.

A1 all the way. People who use Heinz 57 don't appreciate a good steak.

And hook!

[mstng86]

I don't know if anyone else has noticed, but the meat in a jitb hamburger is putrid. I thought at first it was just the local jitb maybe doing something different, but it is every one of them.

It's been this way for some time now, but many restaurants aren't really restaurants anymore. I like to call them microwaves, or re-thermers. So little product is actually cooked in the store anymore. This is true for fast food, but it's even more prevalent in casual restaurants, where you sit down to eat. Mainly with chains, but some Mom & Pops do it as well. This is why I prefer to eat at places that have actual chefs, not just cooks.

So true. we ended up in a chili's a month ago and somehow my wife got on the subject of her food not being fresh to the waitress, and the waitress let us know its all just thrown on a conveyor system. None of it is fresh. Oh, awesome.
This is kind of why I really like the idea of hibatchi. i know that shit is fresh. I SEENED IT WITH MY OWN 2 EYES!!!

[bcoop]

Two things happen here.

1.) Your taste buds develop, and tastes change as you get older. Your palate becomes more developed. Things you used to like, you don't like anymore. Things you used to not like, you grow to like.

2.) Food quality has become shit. Preservation methods have changed. The makeup of what goes in to product has changed. Less beef, more soy. Less fresh, more processed crap. The chains do this for several reasons. Reduce food costs, increase consistency, reduce cook and service time, etc. McDonald's is the king of consistency. Sure, it's shit. But you can get that exact same shit, cooked the exact same way, with the exact same taste; whether you're in Odessa, TX, or Shanghai.




It's been this way for some time now, but many restaurants aren't really restaurants anymore. I like to call them microwaves, or re-thermers. So little product is actually cooked in the store anymore. This is true for fast food, but it's even more prevalent in casual restaurants, where you sit down to eat. Mainly with chains, but some Mom & Pops do it as well. This is why I prefer to eat at places that have actual chefs, not just cooks.

[BMCSean]

lmao


I used to eat the hell out of McDonalds when I was a teenager. The only time you'll find me there now is if it is 2am and I'm desperate. Even then I don't think it is "good."

Your body tells us that happens frequently.....

lmao


I used to eat the hell out of McDonalds when I was a teenager. The only time you'll find me there now is if it is 2am and I'm desperate. Even then I don't think it is "good."

[DON SVO]

Dammit Brent!

[DON SVO]

A1 or Heinz 57? I'm an A1 guy.

I smell a ketchup kinda guy from MustangPoser. NOTHING sets off a good steak like ketchup.