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Veteran Arizona state cop resigns after discovered to be illegal immigrant
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Those things are forged or otherwise acquired all the time. Either way, it's the only way I'd be forgiving of her not going to court/jail over it. Resignation is not enough.
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It's entirely plausible, IMO. Socials are just as easy to get as a birth certificate.Originally posted by line-em-up View PostI'll give her the benefit of the doubt for now, but I still find it hard to believe. I wonder how old she is. Nowadays, babies are issues a SSN. When I was born, it wasn't that way. I didn't get a SSN until I was old enough to work. That meant I had to contact the state for my birth certificate, cince I didn't have a copy of it. Years later, I had to get another copy because I misplaced it.
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If memory serves, you can't just have a copy of your BC to get in the military, you have to get a certified copy which means he'd have to go to the courthouse of his birth city. This is a huge security issue and should cause the military to go through and see who else is illegal and dump them outside of the borders until they get things handled.Originally posted by bcoop View PostSure there is. People lie. Especially people who may be living in the country illegally. It is entirely possible her parents lied to her. It's not only possible, it's very likely considering her brother is in the Army, and didn't know he was illegal until applying for a passport.
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I'll give her the benefit of the doubt for now, but I still find it hard to believe. I wonder how old she is. Nowadays, babies are issues a SSN. When I was born, it wasn't that way. I didn't get a SSN until I was old enough to work. That meant I had to contact the state for my birth certificate, since I didn't have a copy of it. Years later, I had to get another copy because I misplaced it.Originally posted by bcoop View PostSure there is. People lie. Especially people who may be living in the country illegally. It is entirely possible her parents lied to her. It's not only possible, it's very likely considering her brother is in the Army, and didn't know he was illegal until applying for a passport.
A fake, or forged one her parents likely bought when they got here.
Lots of adopted people don't know these things, because their parents also lie to them. They think they know, but all they know is what they are told.Last edited by line-em-up; 12-16-2013, 05:12 PM.
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I don't think that's even possible... at some point in life, she would have known she does not have a SSN or birth certificate.Originally posted by ceyko View PostThat and it would seem she needs to be in jail. The only way I'd be forgiving is if she had absolutely no clue. i.e. Her parents never told her, she had paperwork (from her parents)...etc...etc
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Originally posted by Forever_frost View PostI want to know how anything she testified over at any trial will hold up as she was committing a crime WHILE she was in the courtroom and destroys her credibility.
Probably depends on if a court can decide whether her testimony alone is the determining factor in the outcome of whatever case.
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Sure there is. People lie. Especially people who may be living in the country illegally. It is entirely possible her parents lied to her. It's not only possible, it's very likely considering her brother is in the Army, and didn't know he was illegal until applying for a passport.Originally posted by line-em-up View PostThere is absolutely no way that she didn't know that she wasn't legal.
Originally posted by line-em-up View PostHow did she do all of the things that needed to be done with a birth certificate?
A fake, or forged one her parents likely bought when they got here.
Lots of adopted people don't know these things, because their parents also lie to them. They think they know, but all they know is what they are told.Originally posted by line-em-up View PostI don't know of anyone that doesn't know what town they were born in.
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There is absolutely no way that she didn't know that she wasn't legal. How did she do all of the things that needed to be done with a birth certificate? I don't know of anyone that doesn't know what town they were born in.
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Every arrest, every testimony... all now null and void. Every case that she is even remotely involved will now have solid grounds for requesting new trials.Originally posted by Forever_frost View PostI want to know how anything she testified over at any trial will hold up as she was committing a crime WHILE she was in the courtroom and destroys her credibility.
She needs to be arrested, and if found guilty, have everything she owns seized and sold so that the people can recover the wages other compensation that was paid to here over those 13 years. I'm betting it won't happen, and that the cunt will not face charges and even keep her pension.
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That and it would seem she needs to be in jail. The only way I'd be forgiving is if she had absolutely no clue. i.e. Her parents never told her, she had paperwork (from her parents)...etc...etcOriginally posted by Forever_frost View PostI want to know how anything she testified over at any trial will hold up as she was committing a crime WHILE she was in the courtroom and destroys her credibility.
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Did she really not know she wasnt a American citizen?
I wonder how long the brother has been in the military.
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I want to know how anything she testified over at any trial will hold up as she was committing a crime WHILE she was in the courtroom and destroys her credibility.
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