Millennials - What are your thoughts?

[Rreemo]

That sounds exhausting. It has been awhile since I've employed anyone, let alone kids, but I feel like I'm at the point where my patience is dwindling. My class ranges from 22 to 60, and the sub 25 crowd is really difficult to deal with. They act like children raised in a house where their parents got involved in every single thing possible.

EXACTLY! They can't make any decisions on their own, and they need hand-holding for everything.....and even the losing teams get trophies.

...yes it is exhausting. Luckily I don't directly manage any of them, but the managers directly under me do, so I am close enough to it, and I hear/see plenty about it.

[Dlachance]

This is a far cry from the truth. I know more people my age that can run a CNC or hand mill than people of older generations. I know more people my age that can weld than older generations. The list goes on...

Maybe you need to ask yourself why you surround yourself with so many slap Dick's.

Where did you grow up? I went to SC Junior and Keller high and was in the Army. In living in the higher end area and being in the military, the general person in this age group is a lazy, self righteous and/or entitled type. Statistics. Sad part is, there were over 80 million people born between 1982 and 1993. Average work tenure for a millennial is less than 2 1/2 years.(Pay scale) $1 trillion in student debt(Bloomberg), that's an average of $45,000 per, (PNC Financial Services). 40% of millennials think that they SHOULD be promoted every 2 years. (TIME US) the guys I work with now on second shift feel that if the boss man isn't walking around telling everyone how good they are, then they must be doing something wrong. I am an immigrant who has been living here 15 years. I work hard because I appreciate what we have here, most don't.


Edit-Statistics based on actual studies show that generally the millennial gen is garbage.- Do you really think our generation is better than previous by measure of success, financial security, outlook on the future, personal responsibility? Shit, look who they voted for in 2008.

[Sean88gt]

I'm a definition Gen Xer. It's no secret around here, I'm in middle-management in a large corporation...been here almost 17 years, I was 27 when I walked in the door....so I've had some time to see the last couple generations come through our workforce, while also working along side baby-boomers and other Gen Xers. It's been most interesting to me to see the difference between the Millennials and Gen-Y.

The Gen-Y crowd wasn't a lot different from Gen-X IMO...still a lot of hard workers that didn't mind rolling up their sleeves and doing whatever it takes, with some quality and pride....but they also seem to be the ones that really strive for recognition, kudos, or sometimes just need a hug! The ones on the tail end of that generation were where we started to see more of the entitlement issues and pretty much laziness as a trend. The Millennials, I will say, are more-so that way than any other generation I've worked with so far. The ones that think they are exceeding by just doing their job and meeting basic goals....wanting praise for - "I showed up every day, even when it was raining" type mentality.

We've got a program (same as every large company) where we bring kids in right out of college, and into very specific training and targeted positions....these jobs are literally created for them, to help them migrate from college mentality into the workforce. Through that program I will say that we've seen a stark difference in ratio of good ones vs. bad ones with this Millennial generation....and the entitlement is downright nuts, almost as-if we owe them something coming right in the door. Earlier generations used to be proud and appreciative when they were selected, these kids now-a-days act as if they are making the selection decision, and when they do decide to come here it's almost as-if they think we should reward them for it. Crazy.

They aren't all bad, though. There are also some damned sharp kids in that generation, and a lot of them are already helping us to realize and predict where the trends are headed in our industry....they just work and achieve things in very different ways. As much as I hate to say it, another thing that I have really noticed is the ones who have immigrant parents always seem to be more enthusiastic and much quicker to ramp-up...and they are more appreciative for the opportunity. That applies to those who have lived here in the US their whole life (with immigrant parents) as-well-as those who immigrated along with their parents. What that tells me is that we are fucking our kids up much more, here in the US....unfortunately.

I've read a couple of really good books for anyone who manages folks from this generation -

http://www.amazon.com/Keeping-Millennials-Companies-Billions-Generation-/dp/0470438517/ref=sr_1_7?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1424370656&sr=1-7&keywords=managing+the+millennials

http://www.amazon.com/Managing-Mille...he+millennials

That sounds exhausting. It has been awhile since I've employed anyone, let alone kids, but I feel like I'm at the point where my patience is dwindling. My class ranges from 22 to 60, and the sub 25 crowd is really difficult to deal with. They act like children raised in a house where their parents got involved in every single thing possible.

[YALE]

There's a pretty serious DIY culture in the under 30 age range. Ruffdaddy is right.

[Rreemo]

I'm a definition Gen Xer. It's no secret around here, I'm in middle-management in a large corporation...been here almost 17 years, I was 27 when I walked in the door....so I've had some time to see the last couple generations come through our workforce, while also working along side baby-boomers and other Gen Xers. It's been most interesting to me to see the difference between the Millennials and Gen-Y.

The Gen-Y crowd wasn't a lot different from Gen-X IMO...still a lot of hard workers that didn't mind rolling up their sleeves and doing whatever it takes, with some quality and pride....but they also seem to be the ones that really strive for recognition, kudos, or sometimes just need a hug! The ones on the tail end of that generation were where we started to see more of the entitlement issues and pretty much laziness as a trend. The Millennials, I will say, are more-so that way than any other generation I've worked with so far. The ones that think they are exceeding by just doing their job and meeting basic goals....wanting praise for - "I showed up every day, even when it was raining" type mentality.

We've got a program (same as every large company) where we bring kids in right out of college, and into very specific training and targeted positions....these jobs are literally created for them, to help them migrate from college mentality into the workforce. Through that program I will say that we've seen a stark difference in ratio of good ones vs. bad ones with this Millennial generation....and the entitlement is downright nuts, almost as-if we owe them something coming right in the door. Earlier generations used to be proud and appreciative when they were selected, these kids now-a-days act as if they are making the selection decision, and when they do decide to come here it's almost as-if they think we should reward them for it. Crazy.

They aren't all bad, though. There are also some damned sharp kids in that generation, and a lot of them are already helping us to realize and predict where the trends are headed in our industry....they just work and achieve things in very different ways. As much as I hate to say it, another thing that I have really noticed is the ones who have immigrant parents always seem to be more enthusiastic and much quicker to ramp-up...and they are more appreciative for the opportunity. That applies to those who have lived here in the US their whole life (with immigrant parents) as-well-as those who immigrated along with their parents. What that tells me is that we are fucking our kids up much more, here in the US....unfortunately.

I've read a couple of really good books for anyone who manages folks from this generation -

[ame]http://www.amazon.com/Keeping-Millennials-Companies-Billions-Generation-/dp/0470438517/ref=sr_1_7?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1424370656&sr=1-7&keywords=managing+the+millennials[/ame]

[ame]http://www.amazon.com/Managing-Millennials-Discover-Competencies-Workforce/dp/0470563931/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1424370656&sr=1-1&keywords=managing+the+millennials[/ame]

[Tremor14]

But the 20 year olds beheind up 30 year olds are fucking idiots for the most part, so i think we will see that generation skipped over for the now teenagers who are willing to learn.

[Tremor14]

it's pretty observant in my industry that there are no 40 year olds in the trade. There are a few but most of them that i know of are content with just going to work 40 hr/wk, and have no drive to move ahead.

There is a huge group of 30 year olds who are moving out of the field and into management/super vision earlier because the 50/60 year olds are realizing that they need to get younger talent in, and caught up to speed before they retire.

[Chas_svo]

This is a far cry from the truth. I know more people my age that can run a CNC or hand mill than people of older generations. I know more people my age that can weld than older generations. The list goes on...

Maybe you need to ask yourself why you surround yourself with so many slap Dick's.

You need to get out more. They are everywhere.

[Ruffdaddy]

I'm in my early/mid 20's. My generation is way too far concerned with which app they are going to get next. They are incredibly reliant on the Internet for knowledge instead of figuring things out for themselves. My generation does not know many types of trades or skills either, for example working on a car. It's the parents fault for coddling the shit out of them and not preparing them for the real world.

This is a far cry from the truth. I know more people my age that can run a CNC or hand mill than people of older generations. I know more people my age that can weld than older generations. The list goes on...

Maybe you need to ask yourself why you surround yourself with so many slap Dick's.

[Ruffdaddy]

You still down to test this weekend? Its not gay if it's for science.

[Dlachance]

I'm in my early/mid 20's. My generation is way too far concerned with which app they are going to get next. They are incredibly reliant on the Internet for knowledge instead of figuring things out for themselves. My generation does not know many types of trades or skills either, for example working on a car. It's the parents fault for coddling the shit out of them and not preparing them for the real world.

[Sean88gt]

If any of my inventions work out...I'll be a millionaire in a few years suckas!!!!

Your auto-fellatio assist strap with cramp relieving quick release has potential.

[Ruffdaddy]

If any of my inventions work out...I'll be a millionaire in a few years suckas!!!!

[Treybiz]

I'm in my early 30s and doing very well but i'm still scared shitless. We live reasonably but it's still hard to put as much away as we want to. (1x Car Loan, Paid-For House, No other debt at this point)

My folks were able to store away a ton and have been retired for the last few years and can enjoy themselves. My dad tells me all the time that he we couldn't have grown up like we did and still saved like he did in present day.


Edit: Read through the thread again and would echo some of the other thoughts.... Wether I'm scared or not I'm going to work my ass off until I can't anymore to make sure we make it regardless. I won't settle in and just assume everything is going to work out. I will make every effort possible to ensure that it does.

[quikag]

A million net worth isnt much.

It certainly won't be in 20-30 years.