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Originally posted by Rick Modena View Post^^^
and others suck to much cock.Last edited by Rick Modena; 08-21-2019, 01:13 PM.
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Originally posted by CWO View PostLuckily marijuana/cannabis doesn't have to be smoked in order to receive the benefits. Topical, sublingual, edible, etc. Surely everyone doesn't think that the thousands of children with seizures of all kinds that have been saved by cannabis have been smoking it...
I never disagreed with this.
This thread has primarily been about smoking. I think we all can agree that putting smoke in your lungs is probably not good. I'd be surprised if anyone can name a substance that wouldn't be harmful in the form of smoke in your lungs. My stance has never been that the act of smoking doesn't cause harm, I smoke cigars, I know how it works. It's been shown that long term cannabis smokers have 7% less lung capacity over their lifetime vs someone that doesn't smoke cannabis. A stat someone could bring up in argument against cannabis, but people would rather just play word games and name call.
This is correct and my only argument with you. I think I have been pretty clear that no smoke is good for you. I am just not picking on weed but one day they will be like big tobacco. Fire fighters are learning this the hard way and look at all those soldiers coming back from Iraq that did the burning. Just because there has not been enough studies, to many coincidences on that shit. Where there is smoke....................
My position this entire time, and the same point that some are struggling with is that marijuana/cannabis does not cause cancer, specifically lung cancer, and has actually been shown to reduce some cancers. Anyone can look it up. No one has ever died from a cannabis overdose, also lookupable. Don't believe me? Look it up. It's not up to me to convince anyone of anything, especially here. That's literally never happened.
But you are not clear on this, if you are saying CBD and what ever, then I have an open mind. Not smoking it. Although if you are talking edibles, just remember that shit is weighed as a whole!
All of that being said, it is very difficult to regulate what goes into cannabis and how it's grown. Did the grower use RoundUp? Fuck, you may get cancer just because of that factor alone. What strain is it? Is it high in CBD? High in THCa? Indica or Sativa? Grown outdoor? Indoor? What light source? Nutrients? Additives? Insect control? All of those things affect the potency and composition of each flower, each time it's grown. My point is still the same.
Tru dat
I grew up my whole life against weed. I did the research and found out there is more much more to it. I highly suggest everyone do the same and try to lose the stigma, it affects people differently, and some don't like it, cool. Some claim it makes people lazier and lose ambition, I kinda agree to some degree. I feel it makes the person that is already lazy and struggles with ambition, worse. It's not for everyone. Some people abuse it, it's human nature.
I did not grow up my whole life against it. Some of my relatives specifically moved to where it is legal and got the medical cards. Older people with some sort of issues all ready. I say if it helps them make it though the day, go ahead. Like I said I have dealt with a lot of chronic users before and maybe they were already not very ambitious, maybe not. All were not my repeating criminals though. I am talking, smoking all day, every day.
We won't even get into the legal side of things, but how crazy is it that there are people in prison for 10 years because they had a bag of weed on them, a substance that literally cures cancer (lol). It's insane.
Maybe a brick, or they got their shit revoked for the 20 other crimes they did and got popped. I am a huge fan of criminal justice reform, FYI. I thought about going to work for one of those big ass reform places but most of those include way to liberal SJW's and I can't get on board with all of that shit. I have a little to much toxic masculinity for some of those places.Last edited by kingjason; 08-14-2019, 03:04 PM.
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Originally posted by Rick Modena View Post^^^
Very well said Tim. As is the usual around here, you will get the shit stirrers, the shit tossers and the holier than thou crowd, along with the feeble minded.
Everyone has a vice, some drink to much alcohol, some smoke to much (weed, cigs and vape) and others suck to much cock. Whatever it is that people do, is their business, as long as its not affecting my life, fire that shit up, pop that bottle or glow that oil, in the end does it really matter...
I've smoked cigs and weed, haven't touched the latter in almost 20yrs, but my back and knee pain now have me seeking alternatives to scripts and otc meds. On top of that, I'm no longer workin where random UA is a thing and live where it's legal. Just got to partake in moderation...
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Very well said Tim. As is the usual around here, you will get the shit stirrers, the shit tossers and the holier than thou crowd, along with the feeble minded.
Everyone has a vice, some drink to much alcohol, some smoke to much (weed, cigs and vape) and others suck to much cock. Whatever it is that people do, is their business, as long as its not affecting my life, fire that shit up, pop that bottle or glow that oil, in the end does it really matter...Last edited by Rick Modena; 08-14-2019, 12:59 PM.
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Just to clarify...I'm not against consuming maryjane in some forms, but I think smoking it should be treated just like tobacco smoke. We made a lot of progress in reducing smoking rates...I hate to see it surge again and spur on a whole series of lung disease related deaths.
As you mentioned...edibles, topicals, etc should be looked at as more favorable and smoking should carry a big fat warning.
I've lost 2 family members in the past 5 years from smoking related lung disease. It's a very slow and painful process...
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Originally posted by dcs13 View PostGive it a few years. Some attorney will sue the marijuana growers like they did the tobacco companies. You can't inhale any "smoke" and it not cause an issue at some point at some level.
This thread has primarily been about smoking. I think we all can agree that putting smoke in your lungs is probably not good. I'd be surprised if anyone can name a substance that wouldn't be harmful in the form of smoke in your lungs. My stance has never been that the act of smoking doesn't cause harm, I smoke cigars, I know how it works. It's been shown that long term cannabis smokers have 7% less lung capacity over their lifetime vs someone that doesn't smoke cannabis. A stat someone could bring up in argument against cannabis, but people would rather just play word games and name call.
My position this entire time, and the same point that some are struggling with is that marijuana/cannabis does not cause cancer, specifically lung cancer, and has actually been shown to reduce some cancers. Anyone can look it up. No one has ever died from a cannabis overdose, also lookupable. Don't believe me? Look it up. It's not up to me to convince anyone of anything, especially here. That's literally never happened.
All of that being said, it is very difficult to regulate what goes into cannabis and how it's grown. Did the grower use RoundUp? Fuck, you may get cancer just because of that factor alone. What strain is it? Is it high in CBD? High in THCa? Indica or Sativa? Grown outdoor? Indoor? What light source? Nutrients? Additives? Insect control? All of those things affect the potency and composition of each flower, each time it's grown. My point is still the same.
I grew up my whole life against weed. I did the research and found out there is more much more to it. I highly suggest everyone do the same and try to lose the stigma, it affects people differently, and some don't like it, cool. Some claim it makes people lazier and lose ambition, I kinda agree to some degree. I feel it makes the person that is already lazy and struggles with ambition, worse. It's not for everyone. Some people abuse it, it's human nature.
We won't even get into the legal side of things, but how crazy is it that there are people in prison for 10 years because they had a bag of weed on them, a substance that literally cures cancer (lol). It's insane.
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Give it a few years. Some attorney will sue the marijuana growers like they did the tobacco companies. You can't inhale any "smoke" and it not cause an issue at some point at some level.
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Originally posted by CWO View PostCannabis does not cause lung cancer, as stated and walked back by kingjason
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Quit "smoking" weed years ago. Vape is so much better. Still not convinced what all could be in these thc oil cartridges, so i have a dry herb vape. Havent partaked in over 5 months. Can take it or leave it
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Arguing with Puffdaddie is like arguing with a woman...oh wait...
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Originally posted by Ruffdaddy View PostHe stated it's a FACT that weed has NEVER caused lung cancer.
"Fact. Weed smoke has never given anyone, ever, in the history of time, lung cancer."
He is completely and undeniably wrong about that being a fact so now hes hiding behind other cancer causes.
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