Should smoking be banned in bars?

[brad88gt]

*nod* Selfishness to the point of not being tolerant of other people.

Everybody that thinks their right right to smoke in this place, or to be able to go somewhere and not let others smoke is the problem. It should be up to the bar owner. If smoking is allowed and you don't like it, don't go. If smoking isn't allowed and you don't like it, don't go.

People need to worry about their own shit. Should I have to hear about God when I go to church? Yes, it is a church. If I don't want to hear about God, then I won't go. If I don't want to be in a smoky bar, I won't go.

I smoke when I drink. I smoke in places that allow me to. I don't smoke in places that don't allow it, or I avoid them.

[brad88gt]

Did you read the post? This is about the GOVERNMENT saying it is illegal. In other words, bar owners would have no say so. Of course bar owners can pick and choose if they want smoking or non smoking.

That is my point. The question is irrelevant. It might as well be "Should watching TV in your living room be banned?". It isn't the place of the government, or anybody else to make that determination.

For all the people that think it is acceptable for the government to determine if smoking should be allowed in a private establishment... Do you think it is acceptable for the government or anybody else to determine what you can and can't do in your home?

[ceyko]

Did you read the post? This is about the GOVERNMENT saying it is illegal. In other words, bar owners would have no say so. Of course bar owners can pick and choose if they want smoking or non smoking.

Supported by people though or at least allowed. Hell, the law was done by the government, but there are plenty of folks who fully support it - regardless of the other problems.

[Lason]

Its hard to even go into this without starting a huge rant about all the things wrong with this country, the people in it, and what they are doing to it.

The only answer to this question is both.

Yes if the owner of the establishment wants to ban smoking in his bar, and No if the owner doesn't want to ban smoking in his bar.

Anybody else who thinks differently is part of the reason this Country is on a downward spiral....

Did you read the post? This is about the GOVERNMENT saying it is illegal. In other words, bar owners would have no say so. Of course bar owners can pick and choose if they want smoking or non smoking.

[ceyko]

Its hard to even go into this without starting a huge rant about all the things wrong with this country, the people in it, and what they are doing to it.

The only answer to this question is both.

Yes if the owner of the establishment wants to ban smoking in his bar, and No if the owner doesn't want to ban smoking in his bar.

Anybody else who thinks differently is part of the reason this Country is on a downward spiral....

*nod* Selfishness to the point of not being tolerant of other people.

[brad88gt]

Its hard to even go into this without starting a huge rant about all the things wrong with this country, the people in it, and what they are doing to it.

The only answer to this question is both.

Yes if the owner of the establishment wants to ban smoking in his bar, and No if the owner doesn't want to ban smoking in his bar.

Anybody else who thinks differently is part of the reason this Country is on a downward spiral....

[Chili]

Didn't read the whole thread since I am coming in late to the game, but IMO no, it should not be banned. IMO the decision should be left to the business owner to decide whether or not they want to allow smoking.

[Lason]

Im a ex smoker (year and a half stank free ) and a ex drinker so I rarely hit up bars. In other words I could care less but the part that does bother me is the govt telling people what they can and cannot do, especially the bar owners. Complete crap....

[momo]

Went to a bar years ago in California where they had banned smoking in bars so everyone went to the patio to smoke. I must say it did not seem to hurt business because the place was packed. Plus it was nice being able to go home not smelling like an ash tray and not having my eyes burning and watering like a mofo from all the smoke.

dallas has been non-smoking for a couple of years now.

as a result i'm 99% addison-free despite being next door.

[ceyko]

Again, only in America do we have to protect people who can't use common sense. A lot of nice countries out there and if you ever get out from under your shell - you're going to have to suck it up a little and endure some cigarette/cigar/pipe smoke.

[ceyko]

Just drive down the road and watch incosiderate smokers through cigarette butts out the window.

Or be at a stop light and watch the guy in front of you open his car door and empty his ash tray out on the road.

Disgusting.

Illegal (littering) vs Inconsiderate

[BLK306]

Went to a bar years ago in California where they had banned smoking in bars so everyone went to the patio to smoke. I must say it did not seem to hurt business because the place was packed. Plus it was nice being able to go home not smelling like an ash tray and not having my eyes burning and watering like a mofo from all the smoke.

[SS Junk]

<--- Ex smoker.

Bars- Of course.
Restaurants- Not unless it is in a separate/ventilated area.

However on that note, smoking is a nasty nasty habit. All you who smoke smell like you licked a dog's anal glands. Stop being an addict.

[jdgregory84]

Not getting lung cancer or a migraine as evidence of no adverse health effects is a complete non-sequitur.

And smoking not being allowed at an indoor show doesn't seem to have ever stopped smokers in my experience (laws against throwing their butts out the window hasn't either), but my point extends further than that: restaurants and the sort fall under the same guise.

I can understand restaurants. I've never been to a non-bar concert where the smoke was forming a cloud or over-whelming by any means. Yeah, maybe 1 out of every 100 people have a lit cigarette or joint.

[Slowhand]

...and not every person that inhales second-hand smoke is going to get lung-cancer, see spots, and/or throw up. You already retracted your argument about bars. Other than concerts in bars, I've never been to an indoor show where smoking was allowed.

Not getting lung cancer or a migraine as evidence of no adverse health effects is a complete non-sequitur.

And smoking not being allowed at an indoor show doesn't seem to have ever stopped smokers in my experience (laws against throwing their butts out the window hasn't either), but my point extends further than that: restaurants and the sort fall under the same guise.