8.8 Magnitude Earthquake hit Japan

[Sgt Beavis]

Streaming video of a Geiger counter in Tokyo,

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/geiger-counter-tokyo

[Strychnine]

Yea I know we don't have much to worry here about, just in general I guess. I'll check out radiation poisoning. I wasn't sure if the plants would die, etc.

I have some people on my team in Malaysia and they were receiving notice today to not go out if it's raining.

Here's a good graphic. Least severe at bottom. Note the changing scales as you go up each line.

[Skidmark]

Yea I know we don't have much to worry here about, just in general I guess. I'll check out radiation poisoning. I wasn't sure if the plants would die, etc.

I have some people on my team in Malaysia and they were receiving notice today to not go out if it's raining.

[Strychnine]

From a smart person in the nuclear power industry:

Telling folks to dust themselves off before going indoors. To me that = actual fallout. What are they going to dust themselves off with?

That worries me also. They're easing people into major radioactive material release.

In response to what can be done about the exposed fuel in #4:

With dose rates as high as they might be, I'm not sure how you combat it unless you get volunteers to a suicide mission. There's no practical gear you can use to shield rad levels like you might see on a refuel floor with exposed spent fuel.


Wow...................just wow.


You need water in that spent fuel pool. The problem may be that it won't hold water. They need to rig up something to get water up there continuously. It will make a giant contamination mess, but that spent fuel needs to get covered.

Bad, bad, bad........................wow.

And they're saying the #4 fire is due to falling debris from #3. Which means it could have been an issue for the past 24 hours and they are just now publicizing it.


Horrible.

[Strychnine]

If there is too much radiation being leaked, when would we see signs? I don't know much about radiation.

We, being the US? We probably wouldn't.


Anything irradited would have to get launched pretty high in the air to get in the jet stream. Then it would have to survive dilution, make it through any rain storms that would knock it down out of the air while crossing the Pacific, etc, etc...

In short, don't sweat it here. Just pray for the people over there.

[Sgt Beavis]

If there is too much radiation being leaked, when would we see signs? I don't know much about radiation.

google radiation poisoning....

However, you don't have anything to worry about at this point...

[Skidmark]

If there is too much radiation being leaked, when would we see signs? I don't know much about radiation.

[Sgt Beavis]

That radiation is, supposedly, coming from #4. The one offline for refueling. From what I'm reading, that means that there is definitely fuel in the pool, and its likely that the water in the fuel pool has leaked or evaporated out. Exposed fuel irradiating the site.

They just elaborated that #4 has spent fuel stored in the reactor.

[Captain Crawfish]

so what kind of health problems can radiation cause?

[Strychnine]

Live NHK broadcast. http://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/index.html

They are telling everyone to stay indoors, seal doors and windows, shut off air conditioning, don't bring in laundry from outside, etc, etc. If you're outside, dust off your clothes and get in the nearest building...

Wow. It's creepy as hell listening to this

[Captain Crawfish]

the govt probably isnt telling them everything but those plants are definately showing signs that they arent under control. i feel really bad for those people what a screwed up situation

[Strychnine]

The equivalent of his chief of staff finally addressed the #2 reactor explosion. He specifically said that it was not a hydrogen explosion but an explosion within the suppression chamber and that there was a "little bit" of radiation leaked.

400 milliSeivert was the nubmer

8 times what is allowed in a year for workers exposed to radiation in the US.




That radiation is, supposedly, coming from #4. The one offline for refueling. From what I'm reading, that means that there is definitely fuel in the pool, and its likely that the water in the fuel pool has leaked or evaporated out. Exposed fuel irradiating the site.

[Sgt Beavis]

Prime Minister Kan just addressed the country. He mentioned the issues at reactors #1,#3, and #4. He SPECIFICALLY failed to mention #2. He even said that he was addressing the "big picture" of the overall situation even though he has specifically mentioned the other three reactors. He even dodged a direct question about reactor #2...

He said reactor #4 had a small fire...

The equivalent of his chief of staff finally addressed the #2 reactor explosion. He specifically said that it was not a hydrogen explosion but an explosion within the suppression chamber and that there was a "little bit" of radiation leaked.

I'm not buying the "little bit" part. They have evacuated EVERYONE but the people pumping water in from the sea.

Now there is a lot of speculation that TEMCO has been lying to the public. Something they've done in the past.

[Strychnine]

If anyone still cares...


Shit is out of control over there.


The Japanese PM just requested any and all US / UN help w/ the nuclear situation. IAEA is on the way.

Rad levels around the reactors have now gone from the micro to MILLI sievert levels. bad news.

#4 reactor, which was not operational at the time, is now burning... and there's most likely spent fuel in there.

[QuickLS1CHK]

I thought the same but check this thread. It's the 7th post down that says the same thing and it hasn't been edited.

http://www.december212012.com/phpBB2...hp?f=4&t=10806

This creeps me out.