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Runs come in two, no more, no less. A master run, and an apprentice run.Originally posted by Nash B. View Post1 run. No more, no less. Do it.
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The Yankees will have their 2, 3, and 4 hitters up in the bottom of the ninth against Valverde, and it's looking like it'll just be a 1-run game...Originally posted by Nash B. View PostI want Valverde to blow the save tonight, then the game to go to 23 innings with the Yankees winning. And tomorrow I want Valverde to blow teh save again, and it to go another 17 innings, and at that point it doesn't really matter who wins.
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Because it's a subjective award, based on opinion rather than statistics. Young won a Gold Glove at SS the last year Beltre won one, would you rather have him at SS over Andrus (who hasn't)?Originally posted by mstng86 View PostHe is damn multiple gold glover at the position, how can there be any argument.Or Buddy Bell? He won 6 Gold Gloves at third, all with the Rangers.Originally posted by BP View PostHe needs to be productive for a few more years before I can say he's the best in franchise history though, you have to give Toby Harrah some respect. In his era Harrah was one of the best players in the game.
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I was referring to the comparison to Young. i am not saying he is the best the Rangers have ever had.Originally posted by BP View PostYou mean he's better than Royce Clayton, Mike Lamb and Todd Zeile? Between Dean Palmer and Blaylock we never really had a 3rd baseman until Young moved over. Before that it was Steve Buechele, a great player but nowhere near the same category as Beltre.
He needs to be productive for a few more years before I can say he's the best in franchise history though, you have to give Toby Harrah some respect. In his era Harrah was one of the best players in the game.
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You mean he's better than Royce Clayton, Mike Lamb and Todd Zeile? Between Dean Palmer and Blaylock we never really had a 3rd baseman until Young moved over. Before that it was Steve Buechele, a great player but nowhere near the same category as Beltre.Originally posted by mstng86 View PostHe is damn multiple gold glover at the position, how can there be any argument.
He needs to be productive for a few more years before I can say he's the best in franchise history though, you have to give Toby Harrah some respect. In his era Harrah was one of the best players in the game.
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I agree he's a better third baseman than Young but, statistically, it's not a landslide like I keep hearing. Which statistics were they using? They both have .957 career fielding at third base; Young had a .950 this year and Beltre a .965, but we're talking about 1/4 of a season for Young and 2/3 of a season for Beltre.Originally posted by bcoop View PostYou should have called in to the Musers this morning. Jubbs was talking about how statistically, Beltre is the best 3B the Rangers have ever had, comparing him to those that topped that list prior to Beltre (Young wasn't even on it). And yes, they were talking about his defensive ability as well, given that Young was a defensive liability on 3rd.
Kind of goes along with what the TBS announcers were saying during the game yesterday.
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He is damn multiple gold glover at the position, how can there be any argument.Originally posted by bcoop View PostYou should have called in to the Musers this morning. Jubbs was talking about how statistically, Beltre is the best 3B the Rangers have ever had, comparing him to those that topped that list prior to Beltre (Young wasn't even on it). And yes, they were talking about his defensive ability as well, given that Young was a defensive liability on 3rd.
Kind of goes along with what the TBS announcers were saying during the game yesterday.
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Originally posted by Nash B. View PostThe talent wasn't the issue, the fact that he looks like an idiot was. And he still looks like an idiot when he goes down on his knee to swing (but he hasn't done that today
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He's a good player, I still don't think he's a better fielder than Young, not an overall better hitter than Young, but he's definitely got more power than Young. I think they could've gone with Beltre as the DH and kept Young at third and been just fine, except Beltre couldn't (wouldn't?) have been as versatile. But that's just my uninformed opinion.
And yay Adams!
You should have called in to the Musers this morning. Jubbs was talking about how statistically, Beltre is the best 3B the Rangers have ever had, comparing him to those that topped that list prior to Beltre (Young wasn't even on it). And yes, they were talking about his defensive ability as well, given that Young was a defensive liability on 3rd.
Kind of goes along with what the TBS announcers were saying during the game yesterday.
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Madden's a classy guy. I wanna say he had similar words last year.Originally posted by 71chevellejohn View PostSpeaking of class - I'm not sure if anyone caught Joe Maddon's post game interview, but he displayed how truly classy he is.
Here he is delaying the reporter's questions to offer his congratulations to TX and his feelings on their season as a whole:
http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?c_...ic_id=25376650
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lol i have no ill will to tampa bay, but I thought of that when I was watching the yankees tigers game on TBSOriginally posted by Slowhand View PostFootball fans are too classy.
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