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  • Kenny_Stang
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    Originally posted by Avery'sDad View Post
    Somebody tell me how this arbitration deal works to where the Rangers get 2 high draft picks if Lee is signed with someone else. Can't he just sign and the Rangers get nothing?
    It's similar to a restricted free agent in the NFL, if you offer the arbitration, other teams can sign him, but they have to give the Rangers draft picks.

    The difference is that in the MLB, draft picks are alot more hit and miss than in the NFL. In the NFL you know a first round pick will contribute to your team next year, in the MLB, you'll be lucky if that pick ever contributes, much less have an impact on that years roster.

    Here's a site that explains the process a little better: http://www.suite101.com/content/how-...n-works-a45599

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  • Avery'sDad
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    Somebody tell me how this arbitration deal works to where the Rangers get 2 high draft picks if Lee is signed with someone else. Can't he just sign and the Rangers get nothing?

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  • mustang_marc
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    Yay Josh! Only thing missing this year was a ring.

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  • pHILSANITY07
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    Originally posted by Kenny_Stang View Post
    Also Cano didn't even get 2nd... ended up in 3rd!
    im not a yankee fan but that guy is one bad dude

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  • mstng86
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    Cool. He deserved it. He did hurt is Ribs going all out after all.

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  • Kenny_Stang
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    Also Cano didn't even get 2nd... ended up in 3rd!

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  • Kenny_Stang
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    Josh Hamilton is the AL MVP

    Recevied 22 of 28 1st place votes.
    Last edited by Kenny_Stang; 11-23-2010, 01:05 PM.

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  • Vertnut
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    Originally posted by mstng86 View Post
    Why not? Jeter got a gold glove, remember?
    That's what a huge market does for you. It's all about exposure. The country got to see the Yankee's intentionally walk Hamilton several times, but also watched him fail in the World Series. Hamilton will probably win it.

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  • Kenny_Stang
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    Originally posted by mstng86 View Post
    Why not? Jeter got a gold glove, remember?
    Yeah that pisses me off too... I hate the damn Yankees. It was so sweet to beat them in the playoffs.

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  • mstng86
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    Originally posted by Kenny_Stang View Post
    If Cano gets it over Hamilton I will be truly pissed... no one deserves it more than Hamilton IMO.
    Why not? Jeter got a gold glove, remember?

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  • Kenny_Stang
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    If Cano gets it over Hamilton I will be truly pissed... no one deserves it more than Hamilton IMO.

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  • mustang_marc
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    Nice little writeup on Hamilton -



    Sports Illustrated will announce its choice for Sportsman of the Year on Nov. 29. Here's one of the nominations for that honor by an SI writer.

    This has nothing to do with substances once ingested, injected and snorted. Nor with bizarre and disfiguring tattoos acquired in a stupor produced by those substances. Nor, even, with Josh Hamilton's recovery from his years-long addiction to those substances, a recovery so tenuous that he still cannot carry with him large bills, even though he is now a millionaire several times over, because he knows that even his 6-4, 240-pound body might still be unable to resist the gravitational pull of those substances.

    No, Hamilton is not my nominee for Sportsman of the Year based, in any measure, on anything he did prior to the flipping of the calendar's page to 2010. He is my nominee in spite of what he used to do. He is my nominee because, in 2010, he was not only the most dominant player in Major League Baseball, but, arguably, the most singularly dominant player in any sport that is currently widely played.

    At 29, he led the majors in batting average (.359) and in slugging percentage (.633) and in on-base-plus-slugging percentage (1.044), but in practice his dominance exceeded even those statistics. He was such a force in the American League Championship Series that the Yankees decided that they would rather intentionally put him on base in order to face Vladimir Guerrero, who has himself been intentionally walked more than all but three other players in baseball history, and who drove in more runs this year than all but five others. Yankees manager Joe Girardi had his pitchers intentionally walk Hamilton five times in the six-game ALCS, but still Hamilton found enough at-bats to hit four home runs, and to drive in seven runs, and to win the series' MVP award as he led his long-moribund franchise to its first World Series appearance. In that series, a national audience discovered what Rangers fans, and Girardi too, already knew: That on the list of batters who can beat you by themselves, there is Hamilton, and then there is Albert Pujols, and then everybody else.

    With Hamilton, there always exists the sense that his greatness might be ephemeral. That he might go out one night with a thick wallet in the back pocket of his jeans and never return. That the all-or-nothing style with which he has lived his life -- off the field, formerly, and on it, currently -- might preclude him from establishing a sustained career. He thrilled the baseball world by hitting 18 -- 18! -- more home runs than he needed to escape the first two rounds of the 2008 Home Run Derby at Yankee Stadium, but had little left for the final, and lost to Justin Morneau, even though no one remembers that fact. He persists in throwing his body into outfield walls and into the centerfield turf, in order to ensure that no catchable drive ends up uncaught, even though he knows -- and his team has told him -- that sometimes allowing a single, or a triple, is worth it, if it means that he'll be able to keep striding to the plate.

    He missed most of September after he crashed into a wall and broke two ribs, and he is injury-prone. Doctors have suggested that the trauma through which he put his body in his early 20s might have left him unusually fragile, might have scarred his internal anatomy in a way similar to that of his skin, which still bears those 26 tattoos that he won't remove, as a reminder of what he used to be, and might easily be again.

    Still, this nomination is not about Josh Hamilton's past, and it is not about his future. It is solely about his present. And in 2010, Hamilton was baseball's best player and would make for an eminently worthy Sportsman of the Year.

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  • Vertnut
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    Originally posted by mustang_marc View Post
    Where'd you see those figures at?


    Oh, and AL MVP is being announced tomorrow. Think Hamilton will get it?
    Cano(Yankee's 2nd baseman) is about the only competition (IMHO). VERY strong in the field (.996!), good at the plate, and is in the biggest market in all of baseball. He also played in almost every game (160?), as opposed to Hamilton playing in 130 or so, due to injury.

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  • mstng86
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    Originally posted by mustang_marc View Post
    Where'd you see those figures at?


    Oh, and AL MVP is being announced tomorrow. Think Hamilton will get it?
    Yahoo sports

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  • mustang_marc
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    Originally posted by mstng86 View Post
    yanks are offering Lee 115-120 million for 5 years.

    That is a pretty large amount for a 32 year old pitcher. Especially one that pitches deep into most games. I dunno, I am not sure he is worth it to the Rangers.
    Where'd you see those figures at?


    Oh, and AL MVP is being announced tomorrow. Think Hamilton will get it?

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