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I'm sure they can make do with someone, I just meant that in his opinion there was no first round talent at that position.Originally posted by mstng86 View PostWell then we are screwed, norm is always right lol. JK
There is always surprises in the draft. Maybe we can get a good guy later on. Free was not supposed to be this good.
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Well then we are screwed, norm is always right lol. JKOriginally posted by bcoop View PostNorm is of the opinion that there isn't a first round worthy O Line guy in this draft class.
There is always surprises in the draft. Maybe we can get a good guy later on. Free was not supposed to be this good.
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Should be able to get a really solid o line guy that high. Preferably someone to take Davis' place and play some tackle sometimes.Originally posted by bcoop View PostThat still doesn't negate his point....
As of right now, Cowboys will be #7 in the draft. Granted, that could change, but chances are Peterson won't be there at 7. And what you'd have to give up to move up 3-4 spots, just isn't worth it, considering all the other needs this team has (O Line, Safety, etc)
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That still doesn't negate his point....Originally posted by papapepper View Post60 tackles is about his average thru is entire career.
As of right now, Cowboys will be #7 in the draft. Granted, that could change, but chances are Peterson won't be there at 7. And what you'd have to give up to move up 3-4 spots, just isn't worth it, considering all the other needs this team has (O Line, Safety, etc)
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x2....move up and draft a real...Patrick Peterson (LSU) big corner, best in the draft.Originally posted by mstng86 View PostI don't want my cornerback having 62 tackles in season. That means lots of caught balls against him and lots of running backs getting to the second level.
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60 tackles is about his average thru is entire career.Originally posted by mstng86 View PostI don't want my cornerback having 62 tackles in season. That means lots of caught balls against him and lots of running backs getting to the second level.
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I don't want my cornerback having 62 tackles in season. That means lots of caught balls against him and lots of running backs getting to the second level.Originally posted by papapepper View PostI was looking at Newman's stats this year.... Only 5 passes deflected and 2 interceptions. He is a solid tackler though year in and year out with 62.
I can't really comment on the whole Campo subject cause I've got no knowledge on the matter.
Dallas could use a safety though this I've known for a while.
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I was looking at Newman's stats this year.... Only 5 passes deflected and 2 interceptions. He is a solid tackler though year in and year out with 62.Originally posted by bcoop View PostWhy wouldn't I like that statement? You act like I don't like or respect anyone in the NFL that doesn't play for Dallas, and that's far from the truth.
As mstang said, Jenkins was a complete shutdown corner last season. Talked about as one of the top 3 in the NFL. This year, he has completely fallen off.
There are a couple ways to address the situation. 1- Fire Campo. 2-, sign a couple veteran DBs. 3- sign a ball hawk safety. A ball hawk safety would help hide Jenkins and Newman's flaws.
But Campo needs to go for sure. He is a big part of the problem. As for Newman, I think it's a combination of age and Campo.
I can't really comment on the whole Campo subject cause I've got no knowledge on the matter.
Dallas could use a safety though this I've known for a while.
Oh and I figured you wouldn't like the statement because I used Champ as an example. Thought I'd get some nonsense answer out of you for not comparing someone other then a Denver/Saints player.Last edited by papapepper; 12-13-2010, 04:12 PM.
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Why wouldn't I like that statement? You act like I don't like or respect anyone in the NFL that doesn't play for Dallas, and that's far from the truth.Originally posted by papapepper View PostI know you're not going to like this statement, of course that's just an assumption. What ya'll need is a Champ Bailey in Dallas. Someone you can just isolate and let him play out on a island the entire game.
As mstang said, Jenkins was a complete shutdown corner last season. Talked about as one of the top 3 in the NFL. This year, he has completely fallen off.
There are a couple ways to address the situation. 1- Fire Campo. 2-, sign a couple veteran DBs. 3- sign a ball hawk safety. A ball hawk safety would help hide Jenkins and Newman's flaws.
But Campo needs to go for sure. He is a big part of the problem. As for Newman, I think it's a combination of age and Campo.
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Well same could be said for Newman, correct? I remember Newman used to be a real good lock down corner. Ever since 2007 season or so I've started to notice he is losing that edge he once had. He will play a consistent game then all of the sudden gets burned deep on one play and is changes the outcome of the entire game.Originally posted by mstng86 View PostJenkins did that last year. Not so much this year.
Best example I can think of is when it was 10-10 Denver @ Dallas and Marshall burned newman deep in the last couple of minutes. Although probably a bad example because multiple Cowboys couldn't taken on that play.
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Jenkins did that last year. Not so much this year.Originally posted by papapepper View PostI know you're not going to like this statement, of course that's just an assumption. What ya'll need is a Champ Bailey in Dallas. Someone you can just isolate and let him play out on a island the entire game.
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I know you're not going to like this statement, of course that's just an assumption. What ya'll need is a Champ Bailey in Dallas. Someone you can just isolate and let him play out on a island the entire game.Originally posted by bcoop View PostBoth CBs covered him on different plays. Newman got burned on the 65 yarder, Jenkins on the 91.
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I think the proper word for the situation was. Was any corner covering him last night? and the answer would be no.
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