bcoop...what do you think of this steak ager?

[ELVIS]

Zagat rate that Michelin star motherfucker!!

hell yes!

god bless.

[BMCSean]

Zagat rate that Michelin star motherfucker!!

[Craizie]

Bet you wont hit him.

[Jose]

Fight! Fight!! Fight!!!

[bcoop]

They are also using salt in their device, a natural desiccant.

Aging rooms also use Himalayan salt. To purify the air and season the steaks through air circulation.

Refrigeration both cools and reduces humidity. If you want to quantify how much get a little device called a hygrometer and knock yourself out.

Reduces, yes. It doesn't remove it completely at the temperature range refrigerators operate in.

I'm just saying controlling humidity to a relatively high value using salt and refrigeration is problematic.

Once again, professional aging rooms are walk in refrigerators, modified. They typically have a significant salt source for air purification and seasoning of the steaks. You seem hell bent on saying you can not use both salt and refrigeration and maintain a high level of humidity. Saying that completely ignores all of the butchers and steak houses that have been aging steaks that exact way. Just because it isn't possible in your mind, doesn't mean it isn't possible, and there is overwhelming proof that it can and does work.

It will be interesting to see how this device handles it. You guys are all excited about this shit, but you aren't busting their nuts for their math when they using a natural desiccant (salt) and sticking their device in a machine that when working properly will lower humidity too. They don't list any specs for their device actually, but you guys are all ready to simply push the "I believe" button. Good for you. I'll wait and see how things pan out instead.

Actually, I made my concerns known in my first post in this thread. For $140, I don't need to see the math. That's a low cost/high reward risk I'm willing to take. It may work great, it may not work at all. Either way, I'm willing to pay the minimal fee to find out, as it is drastically cheaper and more convenient than the alternative.

I remember in the '80s when I was in college everything by today was supposed to be running on alternative energy. All the experts insisted it was so. Heck no one even questioned it, because it was so obvious. Now we are still burning coal and oil.

I don't know what that has to do with the price of tea in China, but... Congrats?

If the device works awesome. All I'm saying is that salt and refrigeration both reduce humidity...... and we are trying to maintain a RH of 80% according to most experts.

Most experts don't agree, and I've already stated that. It all comes down to length of aging, etc.

Any of you guys have any proof that salt or refrigeration raises humidity?

Nobody has stated as such, so no proof needed. You're again ignoring that the meat itself is a source of moisture, and that by definition, aging the beef releases that moisture in to the air.

Until you prove either of those contentions wrong, all you're doing is pissing and moaning that you don't like me. If I gave a shit about how much you clowns liked me I'd run for President.

Don't flatter yourself there, cupcake. I hate everyone. My problem with you is that you think you know everything, you spew shit that doesn't make sense to anyone but you, and ignore facts and evidence; showing just how little you really know. I'm of the opinion that when you don't know what you're talking about, it's better to appear to be stupid than it is to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

[Ruffdaddy]

They are also using salt in their device, a natural desiccant.

Go read for yourself gentlemen,

http://nptel.ac.in/courses/112105129/pdf/RAC%20Lecture%203.pdf

Refrigeration both cools and reduces humidity. If you want to quantify how much get a little device called a hygrometer and knock yourself out.

If you want to see the math, look something called a phase diagram for fluids. Almost everyone is familiar with the critical temperatures and pressures for water which is what conveniently makes air wet or humid.

I'm just saying controlling humidity to a relatively high value using salt and refrigeration is problematic. It will be interesting to see how this device handles it. You guys are all excited about this shit, but you aren't busting their nuts for their math when they using a natural desiccant (salt) and sticking their device in a machine that when working properly will lower humidity too. They don't list any specs for their device actually, but you guys are all ready to simply push the "I believe" button. Good for you. I'll wait and see how things pan out instead.

I remember in the '80s when I was in college everything by today was supposed to be running on alternative energy. All the experts insisted it was so. Heck no one even questioned it, because it was so obvious. Now we are still burning coal and oil.

If the device works awesome. All I'm saying is that salt and refrigeration both reduce humidity...... and we are trying to maintain a RH of 80% according to most experts.

Any of you guys have any proof that salt or refrigeration raises humidity? Until you prove either of those contentions wrong, all you're doing is pissing and moaning that you don't like me. If I gave a shit about how much you clowns liked me I'd run for President.

Are you saying the meat isnt a moisture source in itself?

Like i said...show me the math...otherwise you dont know what youre talking about.

[AnthonyS]

Anthony likes to come in to threads, shit all over everyone and everything, inserting nonsensical bullshit that doesn't make sense to anyone but him, then takes off never to be seen in the same thread again. I'm surprised he responded in here already, so we aren't likely to graced with his presence again.


They hit their $50k goal, so it looks like they will be adding the Bluetooth feature. I can't wait.

They are also using salt in their device, a natural desiccant.

Go read for yourself gentlemen,

http://nptel.ac.in/courses/112105129/pdf/RAC%20Lecture%203.pdf

Refrigeration both cools and reduces humidity. If you want to quantify how much get a little device called a hygrometer and knock yourself out.

If you want to see the math, look something called a phase diagram for fluids. Almost everyone is familiar with the critical temperatures and pressures for water which is what conveniently makes air wet or humid.

I'm just saying controlling humidity to a relatively high value using salt and refrigeration is problematic. It will be interesting to see how this device handles it. You guys are all excited about this shit, but you aren't busting their nuts for their math when they using a natural desiccant (salt) and sticking their device in a machine that when working properly will lower humidity too. They don't list any specs for their device actually, but you guys are all ready to simply push the "I believe" button. Good for you. I'll wait and see how things pan out instead.

I remember in the '80s when I was in college everything by today was supposed to be running on alternative energy. All the experts insisted it was so. Heck no one even questioned it, because it was so obvious. Now we are still burning coal and oil.

If the device works awesome. All I'm saying is that salt and refrigeration both reduce humidity...... and we are trying to maintain a RH of 80% according to most experts.

Any of you guys have any proof that salt or refrigeration raises humidity? Until you prove either of those contentions wrong, all you're doing is pissing and moaning that you don't like me. If I gave a shit about how much you clowns liked me I'd run for President.

[Ruffdaddy]

Man thanks again for picking this up. I look forward to seeing your review and hopefully it works good enough so that i can buy one for my pops.

Funny enough, my dad has been asking me to design a home steak ager for a few years now...i just didn't know anything about it. I keep a running list of projects i want to work on and this is another one i regret not trying.

[bcoop]

What is the humidity in a fridge (general...I know a lot of variations)

There are far too many variables to put a general number on it. Style of refrigeration, how often it is opened, what is inside, etc. you can't even get a good baseline comparing those little dorm refrigerators, because they are all over the map. The only real way to tell is by putting a psychrometer in it.

[ceyko]

What is the humidity in a fridge (general...I know a lot of variations)

I often make jerky and if it's quite dry enough, I'll leave it in open ziplock bags in my fridge and it dries them out just fine after a long cold smoke. I don't know if that's from the air flow through there, dryness or both.

[bcoop]

Anthony likes to come in to threads, shit all over everyone and everything, inserting nonsensical bullshit that doesn't make sense to anyone but him, then takes off never to be seen in the same thread again. I'm surprised he responded in here already, so we aren't likely to graced with his presence again.


They hit their $50k goal, so it looks like they will be adding the Bluetooth feature. I can't wait.

[mstng86]

I engineered once.

[CexMashean]

Did someone say engineering?

[Ruffdaddy]

you just described everyone on this board.

Precisely my point. Claiming you have a superior knowledge of the operating effectiveness of this device WITHOUT showing the numbers means you have an opinion. Therefore, it doesnt matter what you taught, you're not actually backing up your statements with fact.

In engineering, just about all decisions regarding feasibility should be backed by numbers. Its not an opinion based or emotionally driven field when it comes to this stuff.

And if you cannot produce the numbers, then you have no business trying to qualify yourself as an expert.

[Baron Von Crowder]

youre just an asshole with an opinion.

brilliant!