What makes the bible true

[Maddhattter]

Your statements above are rooted in deception visited upon you by Satan, so they are of no consequence to me or about me.

Which you have, once again, just asserted and failed to indicate.

[The King]

Your statements above are rooted in deception visited upon you by Satan, so they are of no consequence to me or about me.

[Maddhattter]

Your not accepting the Truth does not make the Truth any less true, it simply indicates that you are blind to said Truth, either willfully or unknowingly. It does not matter which, Satan is behind said blindness.

Again, no trying involved.

You have failed to support your claims. This does not indicate that what you claim is truth is, in fact, truth. It indicates quite the opposite, in fact. So, whether you were trying or not, you would be the deceiver.

You can keep trying your technicalities. Fortunately, I don't require misdirection for my statements.

[The King]

Your not accepting the Truth does not make the Truth any less true, it simply indicates that you are blind to said Truth, either willfully or unknowingly. It does not matter which, Satan is behind said blindness.

Again, no trying involved.

[Maddhattter]

No trying involved.

By dismissing my claims you were nonetheless deceived.....just not by me. Thus, your statement claiming that if anyone had deceived you, it was me is false, and you have thereby either deliberately posted a lie or have been unwittingly duped into posting a lie. I suspect the latter, 'hatter.

You have intentionally failed to provide evidence to support your claim after being repeatedly asked for said evidence.

As you failed to provide evidence to support your claim, I could not rationally accept your unsupported assertion as truth.

So, I was left with no other rational option other than to dismiss your claim. Again, this was due to you not providing support for your claim.

So, if my dismissal of your claim is wrong, it would be your fault(in the context of this discussion) due to your refusal to provide support for your claims.

All the above means that if anyone is deceiving me, it would be you. Based on the facts stated above, it would be intentional via your refusal.

Again, nice try.

[The King]

Oh, so close. You see I never said you were attempting to deceive me. I did stated that if anyone was deceiving me is was you. So, the claim that was made was that you are deceiving me by providing no support for your claims, leaving me with the only rational option of dismissing them.

Again, nice try.

No trying involved.

By dismissing my claims you were nonetheless deceived.....just not by me. Thus, your statement claiming that if anyone had deceived you, it was me is false, and you have thereby either deliberately posted a lie or have been unwittingly duped into posting a lie. I suspect the latter, 'hatter.

[Maddhattter]

.....in your own words:



Reads like a claim to me. The "if" makes it conditional, i.e. attempting.

Oh, so close.

You see, I never said you were attempting to deceive me. I did stated that if anyone was deceiving me is was you. So, the claim that was made was that you are deceiving me by providing no support for your claims, leaving me with the only rational option of dismissing them.

The "if" made the subject conditional. The statement indicated that there was a possibility that no one was deceiving me.

Again, nice try.

[The King]

Nice try, but I never claimed that you were attempting to deceive me.

.....in your own words:

.....if anyone has deceived me, it would be you

Reads like a claim to me. The "if" makes it conditional, i.e. attempting.

[Maddhattter]

Then you have been deceived into believing that I am attempting to deceive you. As such, you are providing a typical example of how Satan fools the unsuspecting into believing that it is not he who is leading them astray.

Nice try, but I never claimed that you were attempting to deceive me.

You've still failed to provide any evidence for your assertions. Yay for the Null Hypothesis!!

[The King]

Then you have been deceived into believing that I am attempting to deceive you. As such, you are providing a typical example of how Satan fools the unsuspecting into believing that it is not he who is leading them astray.

[Maddhattter]

You have simply been deceived by Satan into believing that my statements regarding the Truth are invalid and/or false. You're certainly not alone in being deceived, there have been many before you and will be many after you (for a while).

Again, you make assertions that you don't seem able to support. You've failed to indicate that Satan exists, or that you have the truth.

All this indicates that you don't have a truth for me to be deceived from. So, if anyone has deceived me, it would be you for failing to produce any evidence to support your assertions.

[The King]

You have simply been deceived by Satan into believing that my statements regarding the Truth are invalid and/or false. You're certainly not alone in having been so deceived, as there have been many before you and will be many after you (for a while).

[Maddhattter]

Testable? Test it all you like, that will change nothing because the Truth is what it is.

That doesn't answer the question. The question was how would we do that.

Demonstrable? Already demonstrated by the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.

As stated before, asserting this give is no validity. The lack of evidence to support that assertion renders it invalid.

Falsifiable? The Truth can not be falsified, otherwise it would not be the Truth.

All truths are falsifiable. Being falsifiable only means that there is criteria that can be met that would show the claim to be false.

As this is the case, your statement is false.

It has been and can be obscured (for now) however by Satan through his deception of those who are willing to be deceived or are unknowing that they are being deceived.

For this claim to have any merit, you would first have to indicate that what you assert is, in fact, the truth.

Thus far, you have a lot of claims with no support. This would indicate that you do not have a truth, you have a belief and calling it a truth is either unintentionally misleading, or outright dishonest.

[The King]

Testable? Test it all you like, that will change nothing because the Truth is what it is.

Demonstrable? Already demonstrated by the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.

Falsifiable? The Truth can not be falsified, otherwise it would not be the Truth. It has been and can be obscured (for now) however by Satan through his deception of those who are willing to be deceived or are unknowing that they are being deceived.

[Maddhattter]

Oh yes, we're sure because we've already seen the Truth.

So, if it's truth, it's testable, demonstrable, and falsifiable. So, how would we do these things to your "Truth"?