Texas Legislature seeks to outlaw enhanced pat-downs by the TSA.

[Vertnut]

After the jackoff said that, I'd do it just to spite him.

Perry/Dewhurst could very well do that. I find it interesting that Dewhurst has reversed course on the issue. He originally was not a fan of it at all, in fact he went behind Perry's back and got it squelched until this special session. Now he's "for" it.

[Baba Ganoush]

If you mean spend 3 days in a car driving across country as oppossed to 5 hours on a flight, then I guess count me in the bitching and moaning sector. People don't just travel for fun. Freedom of uninterrupted interstate travel is a cornerstone of a free society. This is like saying people should give up their cars if they don't like gas prices. This isn't 1850; there are some things that are necessary for a normal person to operate within modern societal norms. Your argument is lazy and weak at best.

Bullshit. Air travel is not an entitlement, it's a business. I realize a great number of people fly out of necessity, for work. People also are trapped in suburbia, or live more than a mile from work. If you can't put up with the price or inconvenience, then find another solution. It's harsh, but it is the truth. If gas went up $15 tomorrow, you're going to do what? Call your congressman? Lol! Everyone needs a backup plan, shit could get real inconvenient overnight.

Now having a federal entity meddling in private business' is never a good thing, and in this case is only pissing off the customers and not having a real effect on the bottom line yet. If it did, the airlines and the people would hopefully force the TSA out. Until that happens, people will just bitch and moan and hand over their cash. My destiny is in my hands, not the governments', employers, or oil companies. I am in the minority, obviously.

[Broncojohnny]

Freedom of travel is a cornerstone of a truly free society. Just like capitalism. Government decided it was going to regulate air travel. The Wright brothers didn't have pilot licenses did they? I don't think so. We've all just went along with this horseshit in the name of safety and now it has gone too far. Just imagine that, you give government the ability to do something and it pushes and pushes until it distorts that power to its own ends. I am truly shocked.

[Snatch Napkin]

Of course it is pointless. Just like these xray machines.

It doesn't take a lot of explosive to rupture the fuselage of a plane at cruising altitude. If you have the right stuff, then you could easily hide it within your body. I won't go into the rest of the details, but on my trip over the ocean last year it came painfully apparent that the current process simply does not work.

Let's say we do ban the TSA in Texas. Now let's assume that Obammy tried to flex his nuts and cut off air travel to and from Texas. I know he won't but let's just go with it.

Texas should then put a phenomenal tariff on all goods traveling through Texas along with heavy taxing on any of our exports. If another State (Arizona perhaps) wanted to do something similar, in the name of funding their own security, then we could make them exempt from some of those taxes.

There is absolutely no way that Obama would want to continue this trend of tit for tat. He would be getting pressured from all sides to drop it. We could call a truce on it while emphasizing the fact that we are more than capable of handling our own affairs, but will volunteer our membership with the United States. You know, for keeping the peace with the rest of the pissed off Americans.

[SMEGMA STENCH]

Question: Why do we need TSA when we already had air marshals? I mean you walk through that scanner, so what is the need for the groping? Anyone who starts shit on a plane is going to get shot.

[Trip McNeely]

Texas should then put a phenomenal tariff on all goods traveling through Texas along with heavy taxing on any of our exports. If another State (Arizona perhaps) wanted to do something similar, in the name of funding their own security, then we could make them exempt from some of those taxes.

There is absolutely no way that Obama would want to continue this trend of tit for tat. He would be getting pressured from all sides to drop it. We could call a truce on it while emphasizing the fact that we are more than capable of handling our own affairs, but will volunteer our membership with the United States. You know, for keeping the peace with the rest of the pissed off Americans.

Oh I like where that is going...

[SlowLX]

Question: Why do we need TSA when we already had air marshals? I mean you walk through that scanner, so what is the need for the groping? Anyone who starts shit on a plane is going to get shot.

Sky Marshalls don't fly on every flight and they're reasonably easy to spot if you know what to look for.

[lowthreeohz]

Sky Marshalls don't fly on every flight and they're reasonably easy to spot if you know what to look for.

Yup. I tihnk 1/6 flights have a marshall on them.

[talisman]

Bullshit. Air travel is not an entitlement, it's a business. I realize a great number of people fly out of necessity, for work. People also are trapped in suburbia, or live more than a mile from work. If you can't put up with the price or inconvenience, then find another solution. It's harsh, but it is the truth. If gas went up $15 tomorrow, you're going to do what? Call your congressman? Lol! Everyone needs a backup plan, shit could get real inconvenient overnight.

Now having a federal entity meddling in private business' is never a good thing, and in this case is only pissing off the customers and not having a real effect on the bottom line yet. If it did, the airlines and the people would hopefully force the TSA out. Until that happens, people will just bitch and moan and hand over their cash. My destiny is in my hands, not the governments', employers, or oil companies. I am in the minority, obviously.

I'm not talking about airflight being a entitlement. What is an entitlement, is me not having my person violated without any type of probable cause. NO ONE has any right to put their hands on me, unless I have done something to warrant it. And even though they don't come out and say it, TSA agents are basically a lower branch of law enforcement. Of course they call it something else so they can circumvent the constitution, but these are federally employed security guards, with little to no accountability for their actions. That needs to change, and it looks like something is finally at least being given the appearance of action.

[stevo]

Air travel is not an entitlement, but it isn't a government-issue privilege either, and since it isn't, it shouldn't be as regulated and scrutinized as it is currently.

Stevo

[BP]

if someone really wants to get a bomb on a plane they will do it pat down or not.

True, which is why the entire process is completely pointless. We've had two publicized attacks since 9/11 on American aircraft and in both cases the scumbags went through security unscathed. The shoe bomber even went through Israel and passed El Al's screenings.

If the terrorists really want to make a point they'd use suicide bombers in line at the security check points, use car bombs at the terminals (the wreckers aren't there the second you stop to unload anymore) or even detonate a bomb under the bridges as planes taxi over them. Heck at most airports it wouldn't be that tough to drive through a fence and detonate a car next to a plane loaded with passengers. That or carry on a bag of anthrax, if you can smuggle pot you can surely get anthrax on board. The options are endless.

[Baba Ganoush]

I'm not talking about airflight being a entitlement. What is an entitlement, is me not having my person violated without any type of probable cause. NO ONE has any right to put their hands on me, unless I have done something to warrant it. And even though they don't come out and say it, TSA agents are basically a lower branch of law enforcement. Of course they call it something else so they can circumvent the constitution, but these are federally employed security guards, with little to no accountability for their actions. That needs to change, and it looks like something is finally at least being given the appearance of action.

I agree with you. I just don't want to continue to hear people complain about the security measures they voted to put in place at a business to protect it's customers. If it was soooo bad, people wouldn't fly, and the airlines would suffer tremendously. I used to travel 22 days a month, and I never once had an issue and was thankful for the measures.

Besides, I used to diffuse fellow travelers' anger by saying "for the price of my ticket, I don't mind a little groping from these guys."

I guess I just didn't see cause for concern since I figured this is what the public wanted to feel safe. It is intrusive, and completely useless though, I'll admit.

[Filament]

"for the price of my ticket, I don't mind a little groping from these guys."

You enjoy paying guys to grope you?

[Baba Ganoush]

You enjoy paying guys to grope you?

Maybe. You need some cash?


Great first post, dipshit. Post your girlfriend's tits or get the fuck out, newb.

[talisman]

Maybe. You need some cash?


Great first post, dipshit. Post your girlfriend's tits or get the fuck out, newb.

LOL! The guy registered 8 months ago, but waited around to make it count!