Cain Says He Wouldn't Hesitate to Defend Israel

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all they would have to do is get 50.1% of the vote of a neighborhood community. and you are dealing with a people that have no problem cramming as many muslims into their houses and apartments as possible just to win the vote.

and what happens when an area like northwest dallas decides they want to force out all the protestant churches because that area is 90% catholic?

This. You can't write a law that says a community can ban mosques. It'd be slapped down in court in a minute flat.

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If they do, so be it. Majority of registered voters rule.



If they do, so be it. Majority of registered voters rule.


Stevo

Unless it's ruled unconstitutional. The courts are a check on majority rule, which is a good thing, because we're a republic, not a democracy.

[stephen4785]

I doubt there would be civil unrest because any mosque was being built in a neighborhood. It seems to be more for the NY 9/11 site type stuff. I'm a Christian and wouldn't object to a mosque being in my neighborhood. Freedom of religion is one of the things that makes this country great. Democrats would make it sound like the end of the world. I like what Cain has to say in most everything, I will vote for him.

[stevo]

This. You can't write a law that says a community can ban mosques. It'd be slapped down in court in a minute flat.

Unless it's ruled unconstitutional. The courts are a check on majority rule, which is a good thing, because we're a republic, not a democracy.

He never said it is possible currently, he said communities ~should~ be able to decide for themselves.

As for my statements you quoted above, I was responding to the statements from Cannonball, as to how the laws could work. I never said that is how our law currently works.

Stevo

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I doubt there would be civil unrest because any mosque was being built in a neighborhood. It seems to be more for the NY 9/11 site type stuff.

http://www.ihatethemedia.com/texas-f...-to-new-mosque Just sayin....

Do you have any idea what goes on with these mosques? They require a police presence to direct traffic in and out for any events they have, etc. Though, so does Fellowship. What a waste of taxpayer money.

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He never said it is possible currently, he said communities ~should~ be able to decide for themselves.

As for my statements you quoted above, I was responding to the statements from Cannonball, as to how the laws could work. I never said that is how our law currently works.

Stevo

Granted. I must point out though, if he's saying that, then he's anti-republican, and anti-first amendment, and I won't be voting for him. Being in favor of that kind of thing is what big government is all about, and they don't have a say in how or even if I worship.

[stevo]

Granted. I must point out though, if he's saying that, then he's anti-republican, and anti-first amendment, and I won't be voting for him. Being in favor of that kind of thing is what big government is all about, and they don't have a say in how or even if I worship.

I believe he is for less federal government, and more governing from the local level.

I also believe a law of this nature wouldn't be any restriction on any religious beliefs, it doesn't tell anyone they can or cannot worship, it just states a local majority of people can restrict what types of churches they collectively choose to or not have in their community. An open public vote showing the will of the people.

Stevo

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I believe he is for less federal government, and more governing from the local level.

I also believe a law of this nature wouldn't be any restriction on any religious beliefs, it doesn't tell anyone they can or cannot worship, it just states a local majority of people can restrict what types of churches they collectively choose to or not have in their community. An open public vote showing the will of the people.

Stevo

If he's for less of one, more of the other, and not more overall, then it's a wash IMO. As for a theoretical law, on paper you're right, but in reality, it's a way of banning certain religions from your community, and that's what's got people up in arms about him saying it. It's a populist opinion, and he thinks he can get mileage out of it because there's so much anti-Muslim rhetoric in this country right now, and he knows it'd be impossible to pass a law like that, so he'll say it in public to get his name out there.

[stephen4785]

http://www.ihatethemedia.com/texas-f...-to-new-mosque Just sayin....

Do you have any idea what goes on with these mosques? They require a police presence to direct traffic in and out for any events they have, etc. Though, so does Fellowship. What a waste of taxpayer money.

I'm not saying it would never happen....if they want to protest then great, they should be able to. That's what Mr Cain is saying. But I think mostly people would be tolerant. My point is the left would lead us to believe there would be religious oppression and muslims would never have a place to worship which is a lie. Police presence would be paid by the mosque in that kind of case so no taxpayer worry.

[Forever_frost]

Granted. I must point out though, if he's saying that, then he's anti-republican, and anti-first amendment, and I won't be voting for him. Being in favor of that kind of thing is what big government is all about, and they don't have a say in how or even if I worship.

Actually that's not anti-1st amendment. What are the first words of said amendment?

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Actually that's not anti-1st amendment. What are the first words of said amendment?

On the establishment of religion? How do you figure? Because it wouldn't be Congress making the law?

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof

[Forever_frost]

Cities cannot be anti second. Only the fed does

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Cities cannot be anti second. Only the fed does

We're talking 1st Amendment. And they can pass codes and local laws to try to get there, but when it comes to houses of worship, they usually lose in court.

EDIT: Honestly, I don't know why I'm getting so bent out of shape about it. We're talking about something he'd have no involvement with past his opinion, and I don't see the attempt in Murfreesboro to ban mosques going anywhere, so I'm going to back off. To be honest, I wouldn't think there were a whole 2 Muslims in Murfreesboro. When I was there, it looked a lot like Waco, and that should say enough, lol.

[Forever_frost]

Sorry, meds kicking in. A civilian cannot be in violation of the constitution as the constituttion is very clear with "Congress shall pass no laws..."

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Sorry, meds kicking in. A civilian cannot be in violation of the constitution as the constituttion is very clear with "Congress shall pass no laws..."

Ahh. Luckily, a municipality isn't a citizen, and a citizen can't ban anything that isn't on his property.