UAW to try to unionize Hundai

[stevo]

I went to a apprentice school for 5 years to learn my trade, therefore the people in my trade take pride in what we do. If your ok with letting a non-union company come in and just let anybody pipe up a nuke or a boiler where your kids go to school and just hope nothing ever goes wrong than more power to you. I know there is non-union people out there that do good work, but you would be surprised by how often we have to go in and fix all there work. So am I scared that I'm gonna get paid for what I'm worth??? No not at all.

ROFLOLOLOLS at you thinking that just because someone has a union card that they are doing some kind of higher quality work as compared to a non-union worker.

Stevo

[FreightTrain]

I'm military since we are on the subject. So, brings us to the question. What do you think would happen if we had a union and went on strike for better pay, benefits and a safe working environment?

The exact same thing would happen if I went on strike. The president would order both our asses back to work.

[Forever_frost]

Thank you for helping me out "Captain English" what is it that you do since we are on the subject.

I'm military since we are on the subject. So, brings us to the question. What do you think would happen if we had a union and went on strike for better pay, benefits and a safe working environment?

[Hell-Bent SS]

And it's 'their'. I'm pretty sure I don't want a union laborer who doesn't know the difference to be working on anything but making my sub at Subway

Thank you for helping me out "Captain English" what is it that you do since we are on the subject.

[FreightTrain]

So does a dump truck driver.

I havent seen to many dump trucks hauling 40 million pounds of rock going
50mph.

[Forever_frost]

So does a dump truck driver.

And delivery people

[The King]

A lot of them are teamsters. Not locally but try to haul some dirt in Boston with a non union truck and see what happens.

True, but I am of course only referring to local drivers. Same goes for rock haulers.

[BP]

So does a dump truck driver.

A lot of them are teamsters. Not locally but try to haul some dirt in Boston with a non union truck and see what happens.

[The King]

Maybe the lazy fucks are all members of the UAW. At my job it's hard to be lazy. First off it's not back braking mind numbing work. You're paid to get on a train and get it over the road in one piece in a timely manner. Kind of hard to be lazy doing that. We actually make more money per hour the faster we get the train from point A to B.

So does a dump truck driver.

[Forever_frost]

I went to a apprentice school for 5 years to learn my trade, therefore the people in my trade take pride in what we do. If your ok with letting a non-union company come in and just let anybody pipe up a nuke or a boiler where your kids go to school and just hope nothing ever goes wrong than more power to you. I know there is non-union people out there that do good work, but you would be surprised by how often we have to go in and fix all <b>there</b> work. So am I scared that I'm gonna get paid for what I'm worth??? No not at all.

And it's 'their'. I'm pretty sure I don't want a union laborer who doesn't know the difference to be working on anything but making my sub at Subway

[Forever_frost]

What you fail to realize is all the things that you talk about would have never come about without a union. Hell your blind if you think a company would not rather use a illegal and pay him minimum wages that means they can pocket more money, because they wouldn't have to carry insurance or pay him for a retirement.

I never said they didn't have their place once upon a time, but like segregation, it's time to move on. And you're saying union labor does a better job than non union? would you like to compare GM to Toyota? Or maybe the USPS to FedEx. Or public school to private.

[Hell-Bent SS]

Yes, I'm okay for people making what their labor is worth as determined by the market. Are you saying there are no federal laws in place about minimum wages, overtime laws, OSHA and so forth?

What you fail to realize is all the things that you talk about would have never come about without a union. Hell your blind if you think a company would not rather use a illegal and pay him minimum wages that means they can pocket more money, because they wouldn't have to carry insurance or pay him for a retirement.

[Hell-Bent SS]

I went to a apprentice school for 5 years to learn my trade, therefore the people in my trade take pride in what we do. If your ok with letting a non-union company come in and just let anybody pipe up a nuke or a boiler where your kids go to school and just hope nothing ever goes wrong than more power to you. I know there is non-union people out there that do good work, but you would be surprised by how often we have to go in and fix all there work. So am I scared that I'm gonna get paid for what I'm worth??? No not at all.

[FreightTrain]

My brother still works there and he worked right beside me during my tenure at that place. He also worked at another plant.

Any other angle you want to try to claim i don't know what I'm talking about? We've gone from "You're a liar" to "Well every place has lots of worthless people so that makes it ok" to "things have changed". Where else you want to go with this?

One thing I have noticed is that you haven't come out and said that you aren't surrounded by lazy fucks that you have to pull through the mud every day. To me that says that either you know it is true or you are one of the lazy fucks. Which is it?

Maybe the lazy fucks are all members of the UAW. At my job it's hard to be lazy. First off it's not back braking mind numbing work. You're paid to get on a train and get it over the road in one piece in a timely manner. Kind of hard to be lazy doing that. We actually make more money per hour the faster we get the train from point A to B.

[Broncojohnny]

Yes, I'm okay for people making what their labor is worth as determined by the market. Are you saying there are no federal laws in place about minimum wages, overtime laws, OSHA and so forth?

Unionized labor is scared to death that it is going to get paid what it is actually worth.