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  • Colonel Thomas Pappas was relieved of his command on May 13, 2005, after receiving non-judicial punishment on May 9, 2005, for two instances of dereliction, including that of allowing dogs to be present during interrogations. He was fined $8000 under the provisions of Article 15 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice (non-judicial punishment). He also received a General Officer Memorandum of Reprimand (GOMOR) which effectively ended his military career.
    Lieutenant Colonel Steven L. Jordan became the highest ranking officer to have charges brought against him in connection with the Abu Ghraib abuse on April 29, 2006.[54] Prior to his trial, eight of twelve charges against him were dismissed, two of the most serious after Major General George Fay admitted that he did not read Jordan his rights before interviewing him in reference to the abuses that had taken place. On August 28, 2007, Jordan was acquitted of all charges related to prisoner mistreatment and received a reprimand for disobeying an order not to discuss a 2004 investigation into the allegations.[55]
    Specialist Charles Graner was found guilty on January 14, 2005 of conspiracy to maltreat detainees, failing to protect detainees from abuse, cruelty, and maltreatment, as well as charges of assault, indecency, adultery, and obstruction of justice. On January 15, 2005, he was sentenced to 10 years in prison, dishonorable discharge and reduction in rank to private.[56][57] Graner was paroled from the US military's Fort Leavenworth prison on 6 August 2011 after serving six-and-a-half years.[58]
    Staff Sergeant Ivan Frederick pled guilty on October 20, 2004 to conspiracy, dereliction of duty, maltreatment of detainees, assault and committing an indecent act in exchange for other charges being dropped. His abuses included forcing three prisoners to masturbate. He also punched one prisoner so hard in the chest that he needed resuscitation. He was sentenced to eight years in prison, forfeiture of pay, a dishonorable discharge and a reduction in rank to private.[59]
    Sergeant Javal Davis pled guilty February 4, 2005 to dereliction of duty, making false official statements and battery. He was sentenced to six months in prison, a reduction in rank to private, and a bad conduct discharge.
    Specialist Jeremy Sivits was sentenced on May 19, 2004 by a special court-martial to the maximum one-year sentence, in addition to a bad conduct discharge and a reduction of rank to private, upon his plea of guilty.[60]
    Specialist Armin Cruz was sentenced on September 11, 2004 to eight months confinement, reduction in rank to private and a bad conduct discharge in exchange for his testimony against other soldiers.[61]
    Specialist Sabrina Harman was sentenced on May 17, 2005 to six months in prison and a bad conduct discharge after being convicted on six of the seven counts. She had faced a maximum sentence of five years.[62] Harman served her sentence at Naval Consolidated Brig, Miramar.[63]
    Specialist Megan Ambuhl was convicted on October 30, 2004, of dereliction of duty and sentenced to reduction in rank to private and loss of a half-month’s pay.[64]
    Private First Class Lynndie England was convicted on September 26, 2005, of one count of conspiracy, four counts of maltreating detainees and one count of committing an indecent act. She was acquitted on a second conspiracy count. England had faced a maximum sentence of ten years. She was sentenced on September 27, 2005, to three years confinement, forfeiture of all pay and allowances, reduction to Private (E-1) and received a dishonorable discharge.[59] England had served her sentence at Naval Consolidated Brig, Miramar.[65]
    Sergeant Santos Cardona was convicted of dereliction of duty and aggravated assault, the equivalent of a felony in the US civilian justice system. He served 90 days of hard labor at Fort Bragg, North Carolina. He was then transferred to a new unit and was promoted to sergeant. He was assigned to the 23rd MP Company of the US military police, which was based in Kuwait as of November 2006. There he was selected to train Iraqi police.[66]
    Specialist Roman Krol pled guilty on February 1, 2005 to conspiracy and maltreatment of detainees at Abu Ghraib. He was sentenced to ten months confinement, reduction in rank to private, and a bad conduct discharge.[67]
    Specialist Israel Rivera, who was present during abuse on October 25, was under investigation but was never charged and testified against other soldiers.
    Sergeant Michael Smith was found guilty on March 21, 2006 of two counts of prisoner maltreatment, one count of simple assault, one count of conspiracy to maltreat, one count of dereliction of duty and a final charge of an indecent act, and sentenced to 179 days in prison, a fine of $2,250, a demotion to private, and a bad conduct discharge.
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    • Originally posted by FreightTrain View Post
      Drive by any residential new construction neighborhood and tell me there is a licensed plumber and electrican in everyhouse each time there is plumbing or electrical work being done.
      Please go back and quote me where I mentioned resident construction in this thread.

      And, for your information, a licensed plumber isn't required for residential construction by the state, it is only needed if mandated by a city (and a few counties) that has a building code that requires it if it is built in that city's (or county's) jurisdiction.

      Stevo
      Originally posted by SSMAN
      ...Welcome to the land of "Fuck it". No body cares, and if they do, no body cares.

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      • Originally posted by The King View Post
        Apparently not, LOL

        Get to Googling, union man.....
        I can google just fine. He wants to talk about War crimes when over 1,000,000 soldiers have fought in Iraq and only 11 were charged with War Crimes. Thats a .00001 percentage. Sounds like those 11 were dumber than union workers by your standards.

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        • Originally posted by stevo View Post
          Please go back and quote me where I mentioned resident construction in this thread.

          And, for your information, a licensed plumber isn't required for residential construction by the state, it is only needed if mandated by a city (and a few counties) that has a building code that requires it if it is built in that city's (or county's) jurisdiction.

          Stevo


          Never said you did but an unlicensed plumber being passed off as a licensed plumber is bullshit no mater what kind of construction it is. It happens all the time and to say it doesn't is foolish.



          Really how come they are required by the Texas Plumbing License Law or the Texas Mechanical License Law to have a license and not by the Dallas Plumbing License Law.

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          • Originally posted by FreightTrain View Post
            I can google just fine. He wants to talk about War crimes when over 1,000,000 soldiers have fought in Iraq and only 11 were charged with War Crimes. Thats a .00001 percentage. Sounds like those 11 were dumber than union workers by your standards.
            Actually, I was pointing out the difference in responsibilities. You say running a train is harder than being a soldier, I'm pointing out the differences in levels. Any idiot can run a train if they are taught to. Very few can handle being combat infantry.
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            • Originally posted by Forever_frost View Post
              Actually, I was pointing out the difference in responsibilities. You say running a train is harder than being a soldier, I'm pointing out the differences in levels. Any idiot can run a train if they are taught to. Very few can handle being combat infantry.
              Please show me where I said running a train is harder than being a soldier. I laughed at you when you claimed it was alot easier than what it actually is since we run on Automated tracks. Hell I'd settle for ABS. Anything is better than the same TWC we've been using for the last 100 years.

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              • Originally posted by FreightTrain View Post
                Never said you did but an unlicensed plumber being passed off as a licensed plumber is bullshit no mater what kind of construction it is. It happens all the time and to say it doesn't is foolish.



                Really how come they are required by the Texas Plumbing License Law or the Texas Mechanical License Law to have a license and not by the Dallas Plumbing License Law.
                Are you really that stupid? I mean seriously, can you not read? Are your google skills that poor?

                Okay, let me quote myself and high-light it for you....


                Originally posted by stevo View Post
                Please go back and quote me where I mentioned resident construction in this thread.

                And, for your information, a licensed plumber isn't required for residential construction by the state, it is only needed if mandated by a city (and a few counties) that has a building code that requires it if it is built in that city's (or county's) jurisdiction.

                Stevo
                Stevo
                Originally posted by SSMAN
                ...Welcome to the land of "Fuck it". No body cares, and if they do, no body cares.

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                • Originally posted by FreightTrain View Post
                  Please show me where I said running a train is harder than being a soldier. I laughed at you when you claimed it was alot easier than what it actually is since we run on Automated tracks. Hell I'd settle for ABS. Anything is better than the same TWC we've been using for the last 100 years.
                  So what you're saying is that you shovel coal into the boiler and that running a train in the AC is so terribly difficult
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                  • It looks like the National Education Association is not putting its money where its mouth is.

                    In its mission statement, the nation’s largest teachers union asserts that “we will focus the energy and resources of our 3.2 million members on improving the quality of teaching, increasing student achievement and making schools safer, better places to learn.”

                    But a secret union document reveals that the NEA’s commitment to “improv(ing) teaching and learning” works out to a paltry $7.44 per member every year. This is according to a document obtained from an internal source of the Indiana State Teachers Association, one of the NEA’s state affiliates. All dollar amounts refer to the NEA’s 2010-11 budget, and are the most recent numbers available.

                    Standing strong for better teaching? Not so much…

                    While the majority of a teacher’s dues dollars stay with the state union, $166 is sent to the NEA every year, which is the parent union. As already stated, the NEA only spent $7.44 of that amount on efforts to improve teaching and learning.

                    To put that into perspective, the NEA spent four times as much ($31.05 of the $166) on “legislative and ballot initiatives” and “partnerships and public relations.” The union spent $68.69 of the $166 on administrative support, governance, legal support, and leadership development and constituency support.

                    That explains why the NEA could afford to pay its top three leaders more than $1 million in salary in 2009, the most recent year those figures were available.

                    The NEA is clearly more concerned about taking care of its leadership team than it is about improving student learning.

                    The reason the NEA gives anything at all toward improving teaching and learning practices is so the union can claim to care about students. That piddly amount is only meant to give the union a thin veneer of respectability.

                    We’ve got a lot of great public school teachers. But it’s a shame that they are being represented by such a self-serving, hyperpartisan group of activists.



                    More union greatness
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                    • Originally posted by The King View Post
                      I'm not in a union, don't have a pot to piss in, and I'm bitter. That's why I use that avatar over there to the left.
                      Come on over to the dark side. I'll personally see to it that you get hired.

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                      • Originally posted by FreightTrain View Post
                        I can google just fine. He wants to talk about War crimes when over 1,000,000 soldiers have fought in Iraq and only 11 were charged with War Crimes. Thats a .00001 percentage. Sounds like those 11 were dumber than union workers by your standards.
                        Then those 11 soldiers were 11 too many.


                        Originally posted by FreightTrain View Post
                        Come on over to the dark side. I'll personally see to it that you get hired.
                        No thanks, I don't want to give up my Social Security benefits.

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