The "bug-out" collapse thread.

[Hobie]

I agree with all, except the vaccines and immunizations, they (govt') can keep them.

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Obama is here to finish the collapse America and get rid of our liberties, most of our liberties have already been stolen, America's collapse isn't far behind. The globalist's are ramping it up for the NWO and make it a police state, which after 9/11 it become real close and for the most part is.
With the way things are now with the deficit, our monetary system can't hold up.

Well, there is one thing we may agree about.

Just seems like it's a good idea to be somewhat prepared for an emergency. Flooding, hurricanes, fire, freezes, or even total gov't collapse.

That last snow earlier this year knocked our power out for three days. Even a little propane heater would've been nice. I was sleeping in all my ski gear.

[Captain Crawfish]

Yeah but aren't you going to suffer some drawbacks because of that? Hotter temps and need stainless steel valves?

The valves seats and guides do need to be made of a different material. Also a 30 degree seat instead of a 45degree will help reduce wear. Less carbon means they will wear faster unless they are made from a different material. If you leave the exhaust open awhile longer you can scavenge quite a bit of heat out of the chamber. I know of some injectors that spray both a liquid and a gas so think about what you could do with that. Valves seats etc coated in Stellite have a much higher working temperature and can withstand the temps created using cng/lng.

[91cavgt]

My backup BOV;


My primary BOV is my 2010 Nissan Frontier and my backup to the backup BOV is an 18 speed mountain bike.


Here's some of the things that I've been working on........



Solar cooker made for $25.

I made a solar powered battery charger for D, C, AA, and AAA batteries that cost about $10.



My old lawn mower that I removed the carb and converted it to run 100% off of fuel vapor. After SEVERAL changes and tweeks it now has decreased the fuel consumption of the motor by more than 200%. I'm now moving this fuel system over to my edger that I mounted an alternator to so I can recharge my solar batteries if they get too low. It will be MUCH quieter than running my genny.


I have also made friends with several people that have BOLs in every direction away from me that are within 100 miles of me. This way, no matter what way I need to haul ass to in order to get away from who knows what, I have a safe place to go. The key is knowing when to go so you leave before things get too bad.

[91cavgt]

So what would it take to by pass all the computer stuff on a 00' and older vehicles? Cause just like on star could/can/ has shut down/disable gm vehicles, could some kind of e-shock fry other vehicles computer's and disable them?

If an EMP (electronic magnetic pulse) were to happen then it would pretty much fry any computer in a modern EFI car. However, the older mechanically injected diesels would continue to run. The Dodge diesel trucks from 89 till early 98, Ford diesel trucks up to the mid 90's and the Chevy diesels up to 94 were all mechanically injected and will continue to run even if you remove the battery and alternator.

[SMEGMA STENCH]

So what would it take to by pass all the computer stuff on a 00' and older vehicles? Cause just like on star could/can/ has shut down/disable gm vehicles, could some kind of e-shock fry other vehicles computer's and disable them?

Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the electronic device (whatever it may be) actually has to be running in order to be affected by an EMP burst. So if your home computer was off or unplugged when it went off, it would be immune to the emp burst. Same goes for a car I think. You'd just unhook the battery if you suspected an EMP. Then you don't have to deal with all that old carburetor junk lol. (i freakin hate carburetors, leaky old high maintenance junk lol)

If you suspected an EMP might happen, you might be able to prepare this way. Then again what I would do if I was the attacker, is just hit with the first EMP burst and watch all the fallout. Then at random, detonate more of them to catch any systems that were not running at the time. People keep saying "an" emp burst, but I think it would take a lot more than one. To actually do real damage to the country. And they do have a limit to their range just like anything else. I always wondered if you could create your own directed EMP burst, which would of course make it very easy to kill enemy vehicles. Like if we got invaded and there were enemy helicopters running around, that would knock them right out of the sky and they'd never know what hit them.

[Forever_frost]

http://www.amazing1.com/emp.htm

[Up0n0ne]

My old lawn mower that I removed the carb and converted it to run 100% off of fuel vapor. After SEVERAL changes and tweeks it now has decreased the fuel consumption of the motor by more than 200%. I'm now moving this fuel system over to my edger that I mounted an alternator to so I can recharge my solar batteries if they get too low. It will be MUCH quieter than running my genny.
I have also made friends with several people that have BOLs in every direction away from me that are within 100 miles of me. This way, no matter what way I need to haul ass to in order to get away from who knows what, I have a safe place to go. The key is knowing when to go so you leave before things get too bad.

Nice, any more picks and details of the back up BOV?
I've been trying to calculate when "things get too bad". I know once the dollar callapses, the banks will shut down, accounts, debit/credit cards will be cancelled, etc.
It wouldn't surprise me if it was towards the end of 2011.

If an EMP (electronic magnetic pulse) were to happen then it would pretty much fry any computer in a modern EFI car. However, the older mechanically injected diesels would continue to run. The Dodge diesel trucks from 89 till early 98, Ford diesel trucks up to the mid 90's and the Chevy diesels up to 94 were all mechanically injected and will continue to run even if you remove the battery and alternator.

My F250's a 00'. Wonder what it would take to convert it? Your last pic was a red x for me, but have the details on the solar cooker, battery charger and other stuff you've made?

http://www.amazing1.com/emp.htm

Umm wow!

[Forever_frost]

I thought it was pretty neat too. They also make rail guns.

[Captain Crawfish]

Fixing to get me some RDS.A sell it off people

[Up0n0ne]

Fixing to get me some RDS.A sell it off people

A little slow today, can you explain please? RDSA?

[Broncojohnny]

Fixing to get me some RDS.A sell it off people

Sell it all.

[91cavgt]

Nice, any more picks and details of the back up BOV?
I've been trying to calculate when "things get too bad". I know once the dollar callapses, the banks will shut down, accounts, debit/credit cards will be cancelled, etc.
It wouldn't surprise me if it was towards the end of 2011.



My F250's a 00'. Wonder what it would take to convert it? Your last pic was a red x for me, but have the details on the solar cooker, battery charger and other stuff you've made?



Umm wow!

My back up BOV is a 1991 Honda Fourtrax 300 4X4. Pretty much one of the indestructible ATVs from a coulpe of decades ago. I've done a few upgrades to it to make it a true all terrain vehicle.

27" Super Swamper TSL tires that are actually 29" tall
2" suspension lift
battery upgrade from a stock 5 amp/hr unit to a 50 amp/hr unit
upgraded headlights
fully snorkeled intake, if the wheeler is overloaded it can forge 4' of water
With the tires at 10 psi, it floats with me on it, therefore it can go ANYWHERE
Right now it has 11" of ground clearance, not bad for a straight rear axle
I have less than $1500 invested in the entire thing, including purchase price and the cost of replacing both front axles and other routine maintenance items.

I left the motor stock to retain reliability.



As far as my solar cooker, it's pretty self explanitory. Take one satelite dish mounted to a 2" X 12" frame and add about 300 1"X1" mirrors.


My solar battery charger is just two 2.2 volt solar panels wired in series, and I then have double battery holders for D, C, AA, and AAA batteries. Each battery holder is wired in series, then all the battery holders are wired to the solar panels, and everything is screwed down to a thin peice of plywood.



Here is a link to my lawn mower while I was mowing with it to prove that it runs and has a good amount of power when you hit the gas.

http://s8.photobucket.com/albums/a11...nt=Dave010.mp4



On your truck, it would be easier to just get an older one that is already mechanically injected. It would end up costing more to convert yours over than it would to buy an old used one.



And yes, I too expect things to keep getting bad, and could potentially get really bad here in the next few months. It's a good thing that I've been prepping for a few months now. I've got about 4 months worth of food for me and my immediate family that is very portable. I'm ready if I need to get the hell outta dodge.

[Captain Crawfish]

A little slow today, can you explain please? RDSA?

Royal Dutch Shell! They own some gas stations. Only a lil small cap around 200 Billion dollars

[SMEGMA STENCH]

My backup BOV;
My old lawn mower that I removed the carb and converted it to run 100% off of fuel vapor. After SEVERAL changes and tweeks it now has decreased the fuel consumption of the motor by more than 200%. I'm now moving this fuel system over to my edger that I mounted an alternator to so I can recharge my solar batteries if they get too low. It will be MUCH quieter than running my genny.

I was thinking about trying to do that to a car. Couldn't you get a lot more mileage out of a car, seeing as how liquid gasoline isn't flammable? Its the vapor itself that's coming off the gasoline that is flammable. So couldn't you just somehow scavenge vapors from the gasoline somehow, and only inject that into the cylinder? That is basically what you're doing with your weedeater so why couldn't it be done with a car?

[91cavgt]

I was thinking about trying to do that to a car. Couldn't you get a lot more mileage out of a car, seeing as how liquid gasoline isn't flammable? Its the vapor itself that's coming off the gasoline that is flammable. So couldn't you just somehow scavenge vapors from the gasoline somehow, and only inject that into the cylinder? That is basically what you're doing with your weedeater so why couldn't it be done with a car?

You are 100% on the right track. Smokey Unick did something like this with a Fiero back in the 80's, but he heated the fuel. Heating the fuel is not a good thing to do because you get close to it's flash point and when you heat the fuel, it also starts to seperate into it's different ingredients so you end up with a lot of unuseable waste liquid.

Bascially you would need to use your fuel tank as a giant bubbler, then have some means of closing and opening a valve in the hose that runs to your intake. If you kept your stock fuel system in tact then you also need a way to disable your fuel injectors on demand. You also need a way to get your EGR valve to open fully while cruising since fuel vapor burns hotter and faster.