Moore's Beach Monster

[jdgregory84]

Hey, I'm just telling you what Darwin said about dinosaurs living with man disproving his theory.

And if something evolved from the ocean to walk on land or fly, please show me the transitional fossils. Darwin said that if his theory were true, there should be endless amounts of transitional fossils and that they will surely find them in the very near future. And yet today, we've found none whatsoever.

I'd honestly like to see where he said that first of all. Secondly, take dinosaur fossils. Dinosaurs were thought to go extinct around 65 million years ago and we're not exactly swimming in their fossils. A lot of museums have castings of fossils, and not the actual fossils themselves. So fossils much older than that should be everywhere? Maybe..so deep underground where the pressure is so intense that they're imbedded in stone. Like this one. These fossils are thought to be around 350 million years old. Here's the site I got the pics from. Pretty crazy little critter. http://tolweb.org/Ichthyostega







Not exactly like digging up dead dog bones in your back yard.

Now this took me about 15-20 minutes to look this stuff up. I'm sure that in your infinite wisdom and knowledge of both evolution and divine creation, you know all of this.

[jdgregory84]

Oh yeah, and google results for plesiosaur skull.

http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&safe=off&biw=1362&bih=583&gbv=2&tbs=isch%3A1&sa=1&q=plesiosaur+skull&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=

[jdgregory84]

This clearly was not resolved years ago since the article I referenced was from December 2010 and the writer of the article disproves that this is a beaked whale which was the claim years and years ago which supposedly "settled" this matter. Try again...

Moore's beach monster skull


Side view


Beaked whale skull


Another, but from the side

[jdgregory84]

Out of curiosity I went to this "trueauthorities" homepage to see what this site is really about. From what I saw, the site is broken up into three sections:Cryptozoology, Creationism VS Evolution, and.....wait for it....wait for it.........dinosaurs.

After a quick giggle, I clicked on the "about" tab at the bottom left, and it took me to this.

"TrueAuthority.com approaches the origin of life and the various fields of science from an Intelligent Design (Creation) perspective. More specifically, we believe the Bible to be God's inspired, inerrant word given to man, where in the end it alone stands as the "True Authority." Such does not require blind faith, however, where sound science is disregarded. Rather, our goal has been and always will be to provide objective articles of logic and consistency, using only relevant arguments and information for our topics of focus: creation vs. evolution, dinosaurs, and cryptozoology.

This site has been designed to be as simple and practical as possible, while maintaining a sophisticated design in order to please our viewers both in appearance and information. May TrueAuthority.com become a powerful tool of education and discovery for you, as together we engage to discover the truth that, as far as it depends on us, must be pursued."

Sounds like a completely un-biased site to me. I'm tempted to read some of the stuff out of the "dinosaur" section.

[Superwho]

Actually they do come in here, case in point is this very thread. Some post cognizant arguments, some post foolish rants like you did.

Rant? LOL. New screen name, same easily baited DB!!!

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Actually they do come in here, case in point is this very thread. Some post cognizant arguments, some post foolish rants like you did.

I tried the cognizant, thought out, thoroughly researched approach with BrianC on the old board. It didn't work, he couldn't keep up.

[The King]

You are a moron. Atheists don't usually come in here for the same reason that someone who's never owned a motorcycle would never go into the motorcycle forum.

Actually they do come in here, case in point is this very thread. Some post cognizant arguments, some post foolish rants like you did.

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Yet again, BrianC proves he knows about as much about evolution as he does asthma. Lying his way through yet another argument. Give it up Brian, you are so confused, ignorant, and stubborn you really need to stay away from the topic of evolution in its entirety.

Please don't respond to this with yet another 10 paragraph unguided diatribe about how smart your wife tells you you are and how much she knows about the topic...because that still doesn't qualify you to speak on the subject.

[jdgregory84]

Really? You're referencing comedians for your science? Wow... I bet you get your news from John Stewart too. lol

You may want to post scientists' statements or research rather than comedians, but hey - to each his own...

You posted a link with cryptozoology in the address.

I just posted a video that shows many cryptozoologists and their awesome beliefs. Comedians are the hosts. Just because Oprah narrated a show on discovery, it doesn't mean she did the research.

[jdgregory84]

Please allow me to correct your worldview for you there, buddy. Textbooks say that it rained for millions of years ON THE ROCKS which created the primordial ooze. You believe humans evolved from ROCKS. Please, learn your own beliefs better. Thanks.



Again, pot calling the kettle black... You believe we evolved from a rock by chance when the odds are astronomical for such a thing to happen, and virtually impossible, and you're saying I'm an idiot for claiming an eternally existing designer created everything? Wow... you really are deluded...

Haha. Actually we believe the basic building blocks of life are from simple elements and due to extreme volcanic activity (heat) this created chemical bonds between the elements forming proteins...the essential building blocks of life. Impossible, right? Except that when it can be duplicated in a lab...it seems less impossible.

http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2010/05/scientists-create-first-self-replicating-synthetic-life/

Look at basic human reproduction. Take a microscopic sperm, mix in an egg, heat it up for a few months and POOF, you have an ultra-complex organism. No hocus pocus there.

[BrianC]

http://www.youtube.com/results?searc...+bullshit&aq=f

Really? You're referencing comedians for your science? Wow... I bet you get your news from John Stewart too. lol

You may want to post scientists' statements or research rather than comedians, but hey - to each his own...

[BrianC]

Origin of life began in water. Evolution begins and goes on for millions of years before organisms made their way to land. Therefore, the species that remained in the sea had already evolved to the point they needed to unlike the species that had migrated to land, which needed to evolve further to cope with their new habitat.

Please allow me to correct your worldview for you there, buddy. Textbooks say that it rained for millions of years ON THE ROCKS which created the primordial ooze. You believe humans evolved from ROCKS. Please, learn your own beliefs better. Thanks.

You're just the guy that says a magical entity put all life on earth in seven days. More specifically human life started out with two people only that lived in a tropical paradise where snakes talk. So, how are things going in Narnia?

Again, pot calling the kettle black... You believe we evolved from a rock by chance when the odds are astronomical for such a thing to happen, and virtually impossible, and you're saying I'm an idiot for claiming an eternally existing designer created everything? Wow... you really are deluded...

[BrianC]

maybe its because you usually come off like a condescending know it all asshole? just a thought.

god bless.

At times, definitely! That's what makes it fun! And I only do it when I'm being treated condescendingly. You talk to me in person and I'm nothing like that. I only do it on here to dish out what's being given and for the entertainment value. If someone will have a civil and respectful conversation with me on here, I'll do the same.

What I find interesting is that you all go off on me for my beliefs and yet one of your moderators believes almost exactly the same way as I do, maybe dead on the same actually. I know, because we've discussed beliefs a lot - he's a good friend. It's funny, because he'll ask me to post on forums periodically to watch me make people look stupid, because he doesn't want to say what he's thinking - he'd rather see me do it instead. LOL

Now, I'll admit, I should not be a jerk about this stuff even though the people here go off on me when I'm being civil just because I believe differently than they do. However, the Bible does say to be salt and light to the world, and if you haven't noticed, pouring salt in an open wound hurts like hell, so irritating people is part of what salt does. Jesus said He did not come to bring peace but to bring a sword and to divide families and friends. He came to start a doctrinal war, literally, and people have been martyred for it for centuries.

I figure it this way... if I'm not pissing off some people (when I'm being civil, that is), then I'm not working hard enough. The truth itself should piss people off no matter how nice I am. The truth is, when people see someone come in here and post up something which threatens their way of life and their beliefs, they get pissed off and respond. I'm not the only one who gets hammered in here periodically for posting up stuff people don't like.

Life's not fair. Get over it. If you don't like what I post then don't read it and don't respond to it. Telling me I am a condescending ass is basically joining in with the same behavior, so welcome hypocrits. At least I admit I'm purposely being a condescending ass to those who are treating me that way.

[jdgregory84]

Just how did the basic origin of life escape me exactly?

And, uhhh, I'm not the one saying we evolved from a rock, smartguy...

Origin of life began in water. Evolution begins and goes on for millions of years before organisms made their way to land. Therefore, the species that remained in the sea had already evolved to the point they needed to unlike the species that had migrated to land, which needed to evolve further to cope with their new habitat.

You're just the guy that says a magical entity put all life on earth in seven days. More specifically human life started out with two people only that lived in a tropical paradise where snakes talk. So, how are things going in Narnia?

[BrianC]

It's a well known fact that creatures living in the sea don't evolve as quickly or with the complexity that land creatures have. Why? Because most creatures started out in the sea, evolved to the point that they needed to, and stuck. Look at sharks. It's believed that they have hardly evolved and have existed since the time of the dinosaurs if not before. Look at crocodiles, while reptilious and require oxygen, it's also believed that they have not evolved...why? They didn't need to. Evolution is done out of necessity, not "just because." Good job with the pre-emptive insult by the way.

Hey, I'm just telling you what Darwin said about dinosaurs living with man disproving his theory.

And if something evolved from the ocean to walk on land or fly, please show me the transitional fossils. Darwin said that if his theory were true, there should be endless amounts of transitional fossils and that they will surely find them in the very near future. And yet today, we've found none whatsoever.