Moore's Beach Monster

[jdgregory84]

Hey stupid, I already gave you a foundation for having morals...it's in this thread as a matter of fact.

He does that.

[exlude]

There's a ton of information which shows that their logic is absurd too. If evolution is true, there is ABSOLUTELY NO foundation for having any morals whatsoever. If you know so much about this, please, post some stuff in here about it and I'll show you where it makes no sense.

Hey stupid, I already gave you a foundation for having morals...it's in this thread as a matter of fact.

[jdgregory84]

Wow, you really are delusional. Morals have EVERYTHING to do with religion. They come from what someone BELIEVES. If a person believes in evolution, they will create morals which best suit them, because evolution mindset is very self-centered and about personal survival.

Christianity has morals which are selfless. As it turns out, those morals are very good for the growth of society and for prospering both socially and financially. Israel, at times, due to their free-market economy, has been the richest nation on the planet. The US saw the same benefits from using the old law as the foundation for our constitution. Look at the morals in China. Ask them where they get them from. They will tell you from religion. They also get them from evolution, another religion. You can read about how the Japanese, during WWII, were very prideful about how they were supposedly further evolved than other races (I forget how, though). The Nazis saw killing the Jews and other unfit people and races as a kindness. Their beliefs drove their morals. Beliefs are always what drive morals. Communism has its morals and laws because of its evolutionary beliefs. They've killed millions and millions of people because of their evolutionism belief system. And they found that it doesn't work. Their country collapsed as a result, with some help from outside forces, though Russia was already in financial crisis before outside forces started causing them more problems financially. Now, they've taken a hybrid version of communism and capitalism to make it work a little better, just as China has. But it still doesn't work, though the entire world is in financial crisis because we're all linked to the problem since the world bank connects all our markets. During the Great Depression, the entire world was in crisis for 3 years. But because of the socialist policies we were implimenting in our country at the time, it lasted 10 years for us. Read The Forgotten Man if you want more info on that (though it's insanely long and boring).

Sorry, but all morals come from religious beliefs. Evolutionism is just another religious belief, but its morals are really only what benefits each person individually rather than the whole. Government implemented morals, though, is when it begins to be about the whole, like in Nazi Germany or 1920s America. When the government gets a hold of a belief system such as Evolutionism, they have to borrow morals from Christianity to make it work for a while, but it always collapses.

Sad that you cannot see that Evolution is a religion not science.

So far, you've been the only one preaching on this site. Morals (a strong word for ethics) came way before religion, especially christianity ever did. Like I said, they develop within a society and either grow or disappear as that society sees fit. Can you not agree that the majority of Americans are christian? Can you not agree that the morals today aren't the same as the morals of the late 1700's, 1800's, or even early to mid 1900's?

[BrianC]

I don't need you to tell me what does or does not make sense, but thanks.

LOL Nice. I give you one challenge, to defend your statement, and you deflect so you don't have to do it and get proved wrong. Good job!

[BrianC]

Morals have nothing to do with religion or evolution. Argue either way and when it comes down to it, morals are decided within a society and evolve within that society whatever way that particuliar society sees fit.

Wow, you really are delusional. Morals have EVERYTHING to do with religion. They come from what someone BELIEVES. If a person believes in evolution, they will create morals which best suit them, because evolution mindset is very self-centered and about personal survival.

Christianity has morals which are selfless. As it turns out, those morals are very good for the growth of society and for prospering both socially and financially. Israel, at times, due to their free-market economy, has been the richest nation on the planet. The US saw the same benefits from using the old law as the foundation for our constitution. Look at the morals in China. Ask them where they get them from. They will tell you from religion. They also get them from evolution, another religion. You can read about how the Japanese, during WWII, were very prideful about how they were supposedly further evolved than other races (I forget how, though). The Nazis saw killing the Jews and other unfit people and races as a kindness. Their beliefs drove their morals. Beliefs are always what drive morals. Communism has its morals and laws because of its evolutionary beliefs. They've killed millions and millions of people because of their evolutionism belief system. And they found that it doesn't work. Their country collapsed as a result, with some help from outside forces, though Russia was already in financial crisis before outside forces started causing them more problems financially. Now, they've taken a hybrid version of communism and capitalism to make it work a little better, just as China has. But it still doesn't work, though the entire world is in financial crisis because we're all linked to the problem since the world bank connects all our markets. During the Great Depression, the entire world was in crisis for 3 years. But because of the socialist policies we were implimenting in our country at the time, it lasted 10 years for us. Read The Forgotten Man if you want more info on that (though it's insanely long and boring).

Sorry, but all morals come from religious beliefs. Evolutionism is just another religious belief, but its morals are really only what benefits each person individually rather than the whole. Government implemented morals, though, is when it begins to be about the whole, like in Nazi Germany or 1920s America. When the government gets a hold of a belief system such as Evolutionism, they have to borrow morals from Christianity to make it work for a while, but it always collapses.

Sad that you cannot see that Evolution is a religion not science.

[slow99]

There's a ton of information which shows that their logic is absurd too. If evolution is true, there is ABSOLUTELY NO foundation for having any morals whatsoever. If you know so much about this, please, post some stuff in here about it and I'll show you where it makes no sense.

I don't need you to tell me what does or does not make sense, but thanks.

[jdgregory84]

Morals have nothing to do with religion or evolution. Argue either way and when it comes down to it, morals are decided within a society and evolve within that society whatever way that particuliar society sees fit.

There's a ton of information which shows that their logic is absurd too. If evolution is true, there is ABSOLUTELY NO foundation for having any morals whatsoever. If you know so much about this, please, post some stuff in here about it and I'll show you where it makes no sense.

You're going to show someone else that what they think doesn't make any sense? That's rich.

[BrianC]

Ha, thanks for the advice and for assuming I'm the one who needs to do research. By the way, there's a ton of info on morality and evolution. I know because I read lots of books, papers on that very thing a few months ago.

There's a ton of information which shows that their logic is absurd too. If evolution is true, there is ABSOLUTELY NO foundation for having any morals whatsoever. If you know so much about this, please, post some stuff in here about it and I'll show you where it makes no sense.

[slow99]

What, you never took your own belief of evolution and thought critically about what the morals of evolution should be? Evolution has absolutely no morals. If evolutionists were to live by evolutions' lack of morals, they would need to be doing only what is best for them, which would be stealing, killing and doing whatever it takes to survive. Survival of the fittest.

Communism and fascism both have an evolution base to their belief systems. They spawned from evolution ideaology. If you don't believe me, go do a little research. Marx, Stalin and Hitler were all staunch evolutionists and said that evolution was the foundation of their beliefs upon which they built their government systems. You can find the statements and references to the statements in Hovind's videos. I can't keep up with all the references. Too much information, but you're welcome to research it yourself.

Ha, thanks for the advice and for assuming I'm the one who needs to do research. By the way, there's a ton of info on morality and evolution. I know because I read lots of books, papers on that very thing a few months ago.

By the way, I misunderstood Flashstang04 one day. I thought he was saying he was a moderator in the Theology forum here at DFWstangs, but I must have misunderstood him. He says he's not a mod, so I just wanted to correct my screw up on that one.

I think we can all agree that is the least of your screw ups to worry about.

[BrianC]

By the way, I misunderstood Flashstang04 one day. I thought he was saying he was a moderator in the Theology forum here at DFWstangs, but I must have misunderstood him. He says he's not a mod, so I just wanted to correct my screw up on that one.

[BrianC]

Wow.

What, you never took your own belief of evolution and thought critically about what the morals of evolution should be? Evolution has absolutely no morals. If evolutionists were to live by evolutions' lack of morals, they would need to be doing only what is best for them, which would be stealing, killing and doing whatever it takes to survive. Survival of the fittest.

Communism and fascism both have an evolution base to their belief systems. They spawned from evolution ideaology. If you don't believe me, go do a little research. Marx, Stalin and Hitler were all staunch evolutionists and said that evolution was the foundation of their beliefs upon which they built their government systems. You can find the statements and references to the statements in Hovind's videos. I can't keep up with all the references. Too much information, but you're welcome to research it yourself.

[BrianC]

I will agree with the hard headed creationist and say its not a beaked whale. It's obviously a transitional animal that came from the beaked whale through evolution! duh!

lol nice

[BrianC]

He's a theoretical physicist. He's about as much of a scientist as the guy who thought of the teleporter on the starship enterprise. BrianC was correct in his statement. Basically, Hawkings comes up with ideas, and scientists try to prove him wrong.

To be honest, I was unaware that Hawking taught classes and was a professor at any universities. I can't say if he's a scientist or not. Doesn't really matter, though, to be honest, because he's not the only one who has made statements that the universe "made itself" out of "nothing". That's been stated by multiple scientists. Kent Hovind quotes them on his videos if you care to watch them, but they are long as hell. Interesting, but long. lol