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  • Thoughts on Ron Paul's run for the white house.

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    By Charles Krauthammer, Published: January 12

    There are two stories coming out of New Hampshire. The big story is Mitt Romney. The bigger one is Ron Paul.

    Romney won a major victory with nearly 40 percent of the vote, 16 points ahead of No. 2. The split among his challengers made the outcome even more decisive. Rick Santorum and Newt Gingrich were diminished by distant, *lower-tier finishes. Rick Perry got less than 1 percent. And Jon Huntsman, who staked everything on New Hampshire, came in a weak third with less than half of Romney’s vote. He practically moved to the state — and then received exactly one-sixth of the vote in a six-man contest. Where does he go from here?

    But the bigger winner was Ron Paul. He got 21 percent in Iowa, 23 in New Hampshire, the only candidate other than Romney to do well with two very different electorates, one more evangelical and socially conservative, the other more moderate and fiscally conservative.

    Paul commands a strong, energetic, highly committed following. And he is unlike any of the other candidates. They’re out to win. He admits he doesn’t see himself in the Oval Office. They’re one-time self-contained enterprises aiming for the White House. Paul is out there to build a movement that will long outlive this campaign.

    Paul is less a candidate than a “cause,” to cite his election-night New Hampshire speech. Which is why that speech was the only one by a losing candidate that was sincerely, almost giddily joyous. The other candidates had to pretend they were happy with their results.

    Paul was genuinely delighted with his, because, after a quarter-century in the wilderness, he’s within reach of putting his cherished cause on the map. Libertarianism will have gone from the fringes — those hopeless, pathetic third-party runs — to a position of prominence in a major party.

    Look at him now. He’s getting prime-time air, interviews everywhere and, most important, respect for defeating every Republican candidate but one. His goal is to make himself leader of the opposition — within the Republican Party.

    He is Jesse Jackson of the 1980s, who represented a solid, African American, liberal-activist constituency to which, he insisted, attention had to be paid by the Democratic Party. Or Pat Buchanan (briefly) in 1992, who demanded — and gained — on behalf of social conservatives a significant role at a convention that was supposed to be a simple coronation of the moderate George H.W. Bush.

    No one remembers Bush’s 1992 acceptance speech. Everyone remembers Buchanan’s fiery and disastrous culture-war address.

    At the Democratic conventions, Jackson’s platform demands and speeches drew massive attention, often overshadowing his party’s blander nominees.

    Paul won’t quit before the Republican convention in Tampa. He probably will not do well in South Carolina or Florida, but with volunteers even in the more neglected caucus states, he will be relentlessly collecting delegates until Tampa. His goal is to have the second-most delegates, a position of leverage from which to influence the platform and demand a prime-time speaking slot — before deigning to support the nominee at the end. The early days of the convention, otherwise devoid of drama, could very well be all about Paul.

    The Democratic convention will be a tightly scripted TV extravaganza extolling the Prince and his wise and kindly rule. The Republican convention could conceivably feature a major address by Paul calling for the abolition of the Fed, FEMA and the CIA; American withdrawal from everywhere; acquiescence to the Iranian bomb — and perhaps even Paul’s opposition to a border fence lest it be used to keep Americans in. Not exactly the steady, measured, reassuring message a Republican convention might wish to convey. For libertarianism, however, it would be a historic moment: mainstream recognition at last.

    Put aside your own view of libertarianism or of Paul himself. I see libertarianism as an important critique of the Leviathan state, not a governing philosophy. As for Paul himself, I find him a principled, somewhat wacky, highly engaging eccentric. But regardless of my feelings or yours, the plain fact is that Paul is nurturing his movement toward visibility and legitimacy.

    Paul is 76. He knows he’ll never enter the promised land. But he’s clearing the path for son Rand, his better placed (Senate vs. House), more moderate, more articulate successor.

    And it matters not whether you find amusement in libertarians practicing dynastic succession. What Paul has already wrought is a signal achievement, the biggest story yet of this presidential campaign.

  • #2
    I like Krauthammer. The line,"...I find him a principled, somewhat wacky, highly engaging eccentric", is EXACTLY the way I feel about RP. There's no doubt he will be a force in this upcoming election.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Vertnut View Post
      I like Krauthammer. The line,"...I find him a principled, somewhat wacky, highly engaging eccentric", is EXACTLY the way I feel about RP. There's no doubt he will be a force in this upcoming election.
      Me too.

      I can't help thinking that Pual could be a greater force in the House of Representatives if we have a republican in the white house.

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      • #4
        From where I am standing this looks like nothing more then the media realizing their blackout failed, their attacking failed, so now they are left with yeah he is cool and all but... cant win. Truth is they are on the ropes and are desperate to keep Americans thinking it cannot happen. They even called it in the article, its not so much a candidate vs an idea, as I will freely admit, he is not a good talker, he is too old doesn't have the greasy salesman look and would not articulate well standing in a debate vs the "messiah". Thing is people still go for him because they believe in the message and he bridges the gap between a lot of peoples differences but most importantly his message is all about what America is supposed to be. The only reason he may not be able to pull it off is the elite controlling things from the media all way to the voting counts, but it looks like he has them shitting a brick right now and that is a good enough reason for me to keep supporting him, at some point this puppet show needs to end.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by truebluecobra View Post
          From where I am standing this looks like nothing more then the media realizing their blackout failed, their attacking failed, so now they are left with yeah he is cool and all but... cant win. Truth is they are on the ropes and are desperate to keep Americans thinking it cannot happen. They even called it in the article, its not so much a candidate vs an idea, as I will freely admit, he is not a good talker, he is too old doesn't have the greasy salesman look and would not articulate well standing in a debate vs the "messiah". Thing is people still go for him because they believe in the message and he bridges the gap between a lot of peoples differences but most importantly his message is all about what America is supposed to be. The only reason he may not be able to pull it off is the elite controlling things from the media all way to the voting counts, but it looks like he has them shitting a brick right now and that is a good enough reason for me to keep supporting him, at some point this puppet show needs to end.
          Well, they head south now and SC and Florida will dictate what will happen. Other candidates got very little coverage, too, and I think the "media blackout" has been a little overplayed. He's gotten a lot of coverage since the Iowa caucus.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Vertnut View Post
            Well, they head south now and SC and Florida will dictate what will happen. Other candidates got very little coverage, too, and I think the "media blackout" has been a little overplayed. He's gotten a lot of coverage since the Iowa caucus.
            Not nearly as little as RP though. I laughed my ass off at both elections because both times the night before the caucus's voted Romney was estimated to take first followed by Gingrich and Santorum or even Perry. They HATE ron paul and its so laughable because he is doing as well as he is.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Vertnut View Post
              Well, they head south now and SC and Florida will dictate what will happen. Other candidates got very little coverage, too, and I think the "media blackout" has been a little overplayed. He's gotten a lot of coverage since the Iowa caucus.
              Maybe a little on fox, all the others make it look like Mitt is running for the whitehouse with no competition.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Lason View Post
                Not nearly as little as RP though. I laughed my ass off at both elections because both times the night before the caucus's voted Romney was estimated to take first followed by Gingrich and Santorum or even Perry. They HATE ron paul and its so laughable because he is doing as well as he is.
                Huntsman, Bachmann, and Santorum have all gotten very little coverage, especially since Perry entered the fun. Now the only coverage Perry and Gingrich are getting is all negative.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by dblack1 View Post
                  Maybe a little on fox, all the others make it look like Mitt is running for the whitehouse with no competition.
                  Fox is the only news agency that covers anyone fairly other than Romney and Barry. Romney won the last caucus by 16 points...that's substantial. As I said, SC and Florida will tell us where RP really stands.

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                  • #10
                    Ron Paul definitely doesnt get any attention from the media, but he is still HUGE compared to everybody else.. even that fuckstick romney. The only reason why people even vote for romney is because they havent listened to everything Paul has to say. I fucking LOVE how Paul sells an idea, NOT himself like all the other candidates. and its a legit one, not just CHANGE CHANGE CHANGE HOPE CHANGE HOPE HOPE CHANGE!
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                    • #11
                      What I do see though is since RP has managed to stay in the top tier they have not been able to ignore him as much, and in return he has gained some ground on Romney. I say the "blackout" thing exists because the day after NH primaries Politicos website headline was Romney 1st Huntsman 3rd. Other sites had Romney 1st Gingrich and Santorum 4 and 5. No mention of Paul. Headline pictures show everyone standing together except Paul stuff like that. It you kind of look around and pay attention its blatant. My hope is they cannot anymore, the cat is out the bag. Its not that I run around with a tinfoil hat on or anything I don't care for politics or politicians. Trouble is we are being forced too pay attention a little better since the country is circling the bowl, and all the normal prospects are just more of the same. I cant see a difference between Romney and Obama. I cant see a difference between liberals and conservatives in general except where they want to spend our money, entitlement or military industrial complex, there is not another alternative that says hey stop spending our damn money...with the exception of RP ....anyways I will go back to lurking around now..lol

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by tribaltalon View Post
                        Ron Paul definitely doesnt get any attention from the media, but he is still HUGE compared to everybody else.. even that fuckstick romney. The only reason why people even vote for romney is because they havent listened to everything Paul has to say. I fucking LOVE how Paul sells an idea, NOT himself like all the other candidates. and its a legit one, not just CHANGE CHANGE CHANGE HOPE CHANGE HOPE HOPE CHANGE!
                        It might be good for him if some people don't listen to "everything" he has to say.

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                        • #13
                          I love how the people are chanting " RON PAUL" and "We want to hear what RP has to say!!"

                          and the media is like " Here he is ladies and gents!!.....MITT ROMNEY!!!"

                          Then we are like " What tha fuck!"

                          Shoving that asshole down peoples throats, he comes across as 100% fake to me.

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                          • #14
                            Ron Paul is a threat to the establishment. So of course they don't want him. If you like the current establishment, you should vote for Romney.

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                            • #15
                              Taliwhackers is right on. ROMNEY IS THE ESTABLISHMENT !

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