Individual Mandate Constitutional

[stevo]

So what's the next step? Elect Romney and hope he actually has the balls to try and reverse it?

Start burning it down. Seriously.

Stevo

[gonzoss]

They can't actually force you to purchase it, but they can tax you for not having it.

I am blown away.

to think the IRS is gonna enforce it is fuckin crazy...

[mstng86]

Damn, did anyone see the fines? The percentages?

1% in 2014
2% in 2015
2.5% in 2016

of your TOTAL income

[Vertnut]

And Judge Roberts appears to be a pussy. This is unreal.

[CJ]

Damn, did anyone see the fines? The percentages?

1% in 2014
2% in 2015
2.5% in 2016

of your TOTAL income

That's right, they slip it in slow. If people really understood how fundamentally this will change their lives there would be more concern. Your life in this country will be separated into two parts, before Obamacare and after.

[talisman]

Start burning it down. Seriously.

Stevo

I'm a direct descendant of a Revolutionary War General. I have no problem with that.

[gonzoss]

The penalty is more than the insurance, so yes essentially they can force you to purchase it. The days of deciding not to purchase health insurance are gone, you no longer have the freedom to save money. And it gets better. Anyone with a preexisting condition has to be covered, so any homeless drunk worthless fuck is guaranteed insurance and you have to pay for him, you don't have the option not to. Socialism my friend, here is your "change."

[Sgt Beavis]

WOW.. WTF is Robert's smoking? Even Kennedy was against it and he's the normal swing vote.

I really don't get it with Roberts. His vote has to be a shock to everyone. His history is that of someone that is more of a constitutionalist.

Again, WTF.

[Geor!]

No one should be under any illusion, what just occured is unadulterated pure tyranny. The government just officially took the position that they can take your money against your will, you have no say in it.

I wad just thinking about this in the shower.

You want free speech? No problem! Just pay this $1000 annual tax and free speech is yours! But there's just one thing... Because we're taxing you, we have the right to tell you what qualifies as free speech!

You want a firearm? Be my guest! You'll only need to pay a $5000 annual tax per firearm owned!

[jw33]

This was a surprise, really? This is just another step in the direction we have been heading for a long time.

[Geor!]

This was a surprise, really? This is just another step in the direction we have been heading for a long time.

Yes it was.

[slow06]

The penalty is more than the insurance, so yes essentially they can force you to purchase it. The days of deciding not to purchase health insurance are gone, you no longer have the freedom to save money. And it gets better. Anyone with a preexisting condition has to be covered, so any homeless drunk worthless fuck is guaranteed insurance and you have to pay for him, you don't have the option not to. Socialism my friend, here is your "change."

Its not my change at all. (Although I don't think you actually meant me)

I didn't realize the fines were so much. In part of the opinion is says "The payment is not so high that there is really no choice but to buy health insurance;...". I would have to disagree with that statement.

[CJ]

Its not my change at all. (Although I don't think you actually meant me)

I didn't realize the fines were so much. In part of the opinion is says "The payment is not so high that there is really no choice but to buy health insurance;...". I would have to disagree with that statement.

disagree the statement that you have no choice.

[mstng86]

Its not my change at all. (Although I don't think you actually meant me)

I didn't realize the fines were so much. In part of the opinion is says "The payment is not so high that there is really no choice but to buy health insurance;...". I would have to disagree with that statement.

I dunno. Insurance is fucking expensive. We have 2 adults and a child in my family and it is $500 a month.

$2000 for the whole year doesn't look like much when you spend $6000 a year.

[Strychnine]

Article I, Section 7 states that all revenue bills shall originate in the House of Representatives.

SCOTUS, while upholding it, just said that the Obamacare individual mandate is a tax despite dems adamantly insiting it was not a tax when they ramrodded it through.

Obamacare, which is a tax per SCOTUS, originated in the Senate in 2009 circumventing the Constituion (big surpise, right?).




Opened the door for another SCOTUS challenge in the near future?