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 $2100 year and you receive nothing. And for a lot of people it's going to be a hell of a lot more. And I believe that is per tax payer, so if your wife files, $4200."When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic." -Benjamin Franklin
 "A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury." -Alexander Fraser Tytler
 
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 Originally posted by jw33 View PostThis was a surprise, really? This is just another step in the direction we have been heading for a long time.
 I'm surprised. For all my doom and gloom about what has happened to this country since 9/11, I still had faith in it. This seriously blows my mind it is so wrong.
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 Yeah but you aren't getting insurance for that $2,000. Its a fine, pure and simple.Originally posted by mstng86 View PostI dunno. Insurance is fucking expensive. We have 2 adults and a child in my family and it is $500 a month.
 
 $2000 for the whole year doesn't look like much when you spend $6000 a year.
 
 Edit: CJ beat me to it."A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have."
 -Gerald Ford/Thomas Jefferson
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 This is very true. But the graphic made it sound like it was a family.Originally posted by CJ View Post$2100 year and you receive nothing. And for a lot of people it's going to be a hell of a lot more. And I believe that is per tax payer, so if your wife files, $4200.
 
 I recalculated. I spend $600 a month. So 7200 a year.
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 This blows my mind.
 
 I don't know 1 single person that supports this at all. AT ALL. I don't know if it is the people I hang out with or what, but I don't know ANYONE.
 
 Which makes me wonder, how the hell did it pass? Are a whole lot of other citizens in support of it?
 
 Edit - anyone have statistics on percentages supporting it vs not supporting it from a public opinion?Originally posted by MR EDDU defend him who use's racial slurs like hes drinking water.
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 Hilarious positive spin from Forbes
 
 
 
 Although the IRS is charged with collecting the penalty for not having health insurance, they are precluded from using their most powerful collection tools – recorded liens and levies. The only sure means of collecting the penalty from someone who does not want to pay it is to offset a refund. So someone who managed their tax payments to always have a balance due would never have to pay the penalty
 
  see photosGetty Images North AmericaClick for full photo gallery: Supreme Court Hears Arguments On Health Care Law According to Scotusblog the individual mandate has been upheld. It survives as a tax. The entire bill is upheld with some limitations on the federal government's power to terminate state Medicaid funds. Given the drama surrounding the [...] see photosGetty Images North AmericaClick for full photo gallery: Supreme Court Hears Arguments On Health Care Law According to Scotusblog the individual mandate has been upheld. It survives as a tax. The entire bill is upheld with some limitations on the federal government's power to terminate state Medicaid funds. Given the drama surrounding the [...]
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 That's a joke, they will place liens and levies I promise you. The first year it goes through, no one will pay it, and they will claim it's unfair the rich and wealthy people are avoiding the tax with a "loop hole" and they need to close it.Originally posted by Strychnine View PostHilarious positive spin from Forbes
 
 
 
 Although the IRS is charged with collecting the penalty for not having health insurance, they are precluded from using their most powerful collection tools – recorded liens and levies. The only sure means of collecting the penalty from someone who does not want to pay it is to offset a refund. So someone who managed their tax payments to always have a balance due would never have to pay the penalty
 
 http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterjre...onstitutional/"When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic." -Benjamin Franklin
 "A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury." -Alexander Fraser Tytler
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 Originally posted by Strychnine View PostHilarious positive spin from Forbes
 
 
 
 Although the IRS is charged with collecting the penalty for not having health insurance, they are precluded from using their most powerful collection tools – recorded liens and levies. The only sure means of collecting the penalty from someone who does not want to pay it is to offset a refund. So someone who managed their tax payments to always have a balance due would never have to pay the penalty
 
 http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterjre...onstitutional/
 Makes me want to cancel my coverage just to stick it up their ass.
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 Make no mistake, this ruling did not make it any easier for Romney. The hill just got more steep and the snow has started to fall.Originally posted by IHaveAMustang View PostThis is what I am hoping. He has been handed a silver arrow to kill the beast in the whitehouse...let's hope he aims straight and true.
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