Why Gun Control Is Patriotic

[Nash B.]

You're quoting Forever Frost, but you should change that to Huffpo, since they're not FF's words.

Anybody with any sense will know that those aren't his words.

[DON SVO]

As for carrying off-duty. Just like most CHL's - sometimes I carried/sometimes not.

Still, I have to think if I'm in that theater, I'm gonna assume my life is over and the only choice I have is the way I go out; do I die cowering in a corner or do I die fighting. Not judging anyone else's actions, because I wasn't there, but I'm gonna die fighting.

I can tell you this: A friend of mine stopped the shooter at Luby's in Kileen. He didn't get a kill shot, but hit the shooter, George Hennard , which caused Hennard to run for cover (like the little bitch coward he was). When Hennard realized he was pinned down, he committed suicide. Return fire changed Hennard from homicidal maniac to cowering victim in short order.

Hennard was hit, and he bled, and he was seriously hurt. I'm not discounting getting shot in soft body armor not hurting (it will), but it's not going to have the same emotional response as getting hit and bleeding like a stuck pig from the damage created by a nasty soft-tissue-striking pistol round.

In the other thread, that was my sole position on trying to eliminate a threat dressed in body armor. You'd have to score a lethal shot to effectively stop him, IMO. Direct face, spine, throat from distance in the chaos of the theater where the crowd was erratic, screaming and trampling even the biggest of people to get out. Could hitting him in the armor a few times have knocked the fight out of Holmes? Possibly. My opinion was based upon the shooter being completely prepared for the task at hand (weaponry, smoke grenades/tear gas, armor, planning, etc) he would be prepared also for being shot. I can't lay odds on shooting him in the armor stopping/not stopping him whatsoever, but I feel strongly that it would take a shotgun or semi-auto rifle to combat someone like that. Unfortunately, due to Aurora's disgusting CHL policy, we will never know.

[Baron Von Crowder]

This just in: Yesterday, Millions of gun owners didnt kill anyone.

[JP135]

...Guys, validation on this?

And granted, we don't have the stories of those six, but why in hell didn't one out of six step up and say hey...

As for carrying off-duty. Just like most CHL's - sometimes I carried/sometimes not.

Still, I have to think if I'm in that theater, I'm gonna assume my life is over and the only choice I have is the way I go out; do I die cowering in a corner or do I die fighting. Not judging anyone else's actions, because I wasn't there, but I'm gonna die fighting.

I can tell you this: A friend of mine stopped the shooter at Luby's in Kileen. He didn't get a kill shot, but hit the shooter, George Hennard , which caused Hennard to run for cover (like the little bitch coward he was). When Hennard realized he was pinned down, he committed suicide. Return fire changed Hennard from homicidal maniac to cowering victim in short order.

[Sean88gt]

In a free society you have to be prepared and understanding of the great things that will happen as well as the horrid things. Do people want freedom or not? Anymore, I lead towards "not" because they are offering to the govt these precious freedoms that will never be returned. All I ask of the government is to protect the borders and leave me the opportunity to succeed without limits and to fail without limits to the point I can learn to succeed.

[barronj]

Ah, Thomas Jefferson. What a paranoid nutcase!

You're quoting Forever Frost, but you should change that to Huffpo, since they're not FF's words.

[Captain Crawfish]

had their been more guns present in there holmes would probably be dead. more gun laws will not prevent a physcho from killing people if they want to go crazy they will do it with a gun a bomb etc. evil always finds a way

[helosailor]

Not true. If someone had returned fire, he'd probably have fled. He didn't want to get hurt, that's why he surrendered to cops. He went into a gun free zone, in a gun free town armed to cause casualties. Cops opening fire on him would have stopped him cold.

And he was wearing head-to-toe ballistic gear. He is a pussy. First sign of resistance and he curls up in the fetal position.

[dee]

That article was too full of stupid, I couldn't even make the halfway point.

[91cavgt]

I lost all of my firearms and ammo in a tragic boating accident out in the gulf. Maybe it's time I should go buy some more.

[YALE]

Because he's indian and anti-gun

The number of hard science grads that choose to ignore the statistics of the subject they're trying to sound smart about is truly staggering.

[SouthernSVT]

Some of the comments about that article made me sick. I can't believe how ignorant some people are to think that ridding law abiding citizens of firearms will make them any safer. It was good to see that there's plenty of people sticking up for our rights as well though.



I only have one thing to say to anti-gun activists...





Good Luck

[Forever_frost]

Or they would have shot other movie goers...

Maybe or maybe not. Rounds would have traveled towards teh gunman and he would have quite possibly gotten hit. You have muzzle flash to direct your aim at

[Craizie]

Not true. If someone had returned fire, he'd probably have fled. He didn't want to get hurt, that's why he surrendered to cops. He went into a gun free zone, in a gun free town armed to cause casualties. Cops opening fire on him would have stopped him cold.

Or they would have shot other movie goers...

[Forever_frost]

Because he's indian and anti-gun