Imagine There'e No Heaven

[Moose242]

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Do I believe those, or did you mean to say do I believe those remain in force for me? Those are First Covenant Laws recorded in the Old Testament, or at least appear to be so from what was likely the result of a Google search on your part. If so, yes I believe those laws existed but do not require ongoing obeyance to be fulfilled, as that was already accomplished on our behalf through the life and sacrifice of Jesus Christ. The "Christian" Bible, as you worded it in the last sentence in your post above, plainly states such.

Thank you for your offer, but I no desire for third party education about the Bible. It is something that I choose to read and learn from myself. However you as well as anyone else is always welcome, and encouraged, to post your personal interpretation of Scripture should you so choose.

So if this is the case, why are the ten commandments still held dear? Are they rendered null and void as well?

[The King]

(Quote of preceeding post omitted for brevity)

Do I believe those, or did you mean to say do I believe those remain in force for me? Those are First Covenant Laws recorded in the Old Testament, or at least appear to be so from what was likely the result of a Google search on your part. If so, yes I believe those laws existed but do not require ongoing obeyance to be fulfilled, as that was already accomplished on our behalf through the life and sacrifice of Jesus Christ. The "Christian" Bible, as you worded it in the last sentence in your post above, plainly states such.

Thank you for your offer, but I no desire for third party education about the Bible. It is something that I choose to read and learn from myself. However you as well as anyone else is always welcome, and encouraged, to post your personal interpretation of Scripture should you so choose.

[Moose242]

Some accept the Bible as the infallable Word of God (as do I) and find that His true message comes through regardless of translation. Personally I prefer the King James version. Others, as you posted, may believe that since the Bible was written by men and translated incorrectly in many cases it is no longer relevant. If so, subsequent research into the original texts built upon earlier research (in much the same manner in which science advances upon earlier research) should progressively yield translations that more closely reflect the original writings.

Do you believe these?

"If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them." (Leviticus 20:13)

Don't wear clothes made of more than one fabric (Leviticus 19:19)

Don't cut your hair nor shave. (Leviticus 19:27)

Any person who curseth his mother or father, must be killed. (Leviticus 20:9)

If a man cheats on his wife, or vise versa, both the man and the woman must die. (Leviticus 20:10)

If a man has sex with a woman on her period, they are both to be "cut off from their people" (Leviticus 20:18)

Psychics, wizards, and so on are to be stoned to death. (Leviticus 20:27)

If a priest's daughter is a whore, she is to be burnt at the stake. (Leviticus 21:9)

People who have flat noses, or is blind or lame, cannot go to an altar of God (Leviticus 21:17-18)

Anyone who curses or blasphemes God, should be stoned to death by the community. (Leviticus 24:14-16)

If anyone, even your own family suggests worshipping another God, kill them. (Deuteronomy 13:6-10)

If you find out a city worships a different god, destroy the city and kill all of it's inhabitants... even the animals. (Deuteronomy 13:12-15)

Kill anyone with a different religion. (Deuteronomy 17:2-7)

If you suspect your wife is cheating, you shall bring her to a priest, who will mix a potion of barley, water, and dust, which the woman shall drink. If she's cheating, her stomach will swell. (Numbers 5:11-20)

You shall not trim the corners of your beard (Leviticus 19:27)

You should not lie on a bed where a mensturating woman has lain, and you can't sit on a chair where she has sat (Leviticus 15:20)


I would love to sit down with you and educate you about the Christian Bible and the history surrounding it. I think you could learn a lot.

[The King]

LOL @ giraffes. They are really goofy looking.

LOL @ gaffes. Joe Biden is really goofy sounding when he utters them.

[jluv]

LOL @ giraffes. They are really goofy looking.

[The King]

LOL @ those who can't read simple posts.

[ThreeFingerPete]

You didn't know there was no pope in OT times?

LOL @ the 1600's being "OT times"

[YALE]

lolz @ trusting a "holy book" rewritten by a man that was pissed off at the pope because he wouldn't let him have a divorce.

Am I the only one that finds that funny?

Not how that went down, like at all.

[The King]

You didn't know there was a Pope in the early 1600s when king James commissioned a rewrite/retranslation of the Protestant's Geneva Bible?

You didn't know there was no pope in OT times?

[4.6coupe]

As stated before, we will all find out the Truth in the end. For many it will be to late and there will be no turning back. The father of lies will have defeated you.

[Silverback]

You didn't know there was a Pope in the early 1600s when king James commissioned a rewrite/retranslation of the Protestant's Geneva Bible?

[The King]

lolz @ trusting a "holy book" rewritten by a man that was pissed off at the pope because he wouldn't let him have a divorce.

Am I the only one that finds that funny?

Here's something that's funny. I didn't know there even was a pope in OT times. But, if this learned racrguy claims there was, it must be true lolz.

[The King]

Say mediocrity again, faggot.

Him all upset again, and can we say frustrated? Thanks for the entertainment at your expense, and do please continue if you so wish.

[Silverback]

I don't have to imagine...

I have faith that there isn't a heaven or a god. (That's all I need, right?)

[racrguy]

Some accept the Bible as the infallable Word of God (as do I) and find that His true message comes through regardless of translation. Personally I prefer the King James version. Others, as you posted, may believe that since the Bible was written by men and translated incorrectly in many cases it is no longer relevant. If so, subsequent research into the original texts built upon earlier research (in much the same manner in which science advances upon earlier research) should progressively yield translations that more closely reflect the original writings.

lolz @ trusting a "holy book" rewritten by a man that was pissed off at the pope because he wouldn't let him have a divorce.

Am I the only one that finds that funny?