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I believe I am not following. So, borrowing $40B a month to purchase shitty investments is keeping the rates low? Im not being a smartass, just curious.
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It frees the lenders up so they do not have as many losses. Rates increase due to many factors, one of which is expenses on servicing those loans, and also the amount you're extended on your line of credit. US buys up a bunch of mortgage loans, banks are freed up. Essentially the end result is the lenders will continue to buy loans the same way, without adjusting their rates. This will cause their portfolio to grow again with unstable and less profitable mortgages - further lengthening the depression in the housing market.Originally posted by 89gt-stanger View PostI believe I am not following. So, borrowing $40B a month to purchase shitty investments is keeping the rates low? Im not being a smartass, just curious.
Here's a quote from Gus Faucher - senior economist explaining the same thing, essentially:
It's all Political. This is QE3, the last two stimulus QE1 and QE2 didn't do anything at all besides waste billions. Anytime the government intervenes in the private industry it's artificial and very dangerous. This is yet again government intervention into the private market to force artificial rates to give voters the impression the economy is not getting any worse. The end result will be detrimental to the economy. This is all fake. The market is not correcting itself, it's being stimulated. The truth is all proponents of QE3 and Obama have one thing in common, they don't understand the economy."The new Fed policy suggests that a housing market recovery is key to stimulating labor markets and eventually spurring a full-fledged recovery, Faucher explained. By keeping mortgage rates low -- and possibly pushing them even lower -- through Fed purchases it will hopefully give the fledgling housing recovery some much-needed momentum."Last edited by CJ; 09-28-2012, 12:02 PM."When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic." -Benjamin Franklin
"A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury." -Alexander Fraser Tytler
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That shines some light. Like said above, the fed, backed by the Congress and the Pres, are committing fraud on the people of the UD. Fuck them
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Just focus on those bold words in that quote from the fed and their ambition, and remember that's $40 billion of our dollars and that is what they spent it on, those bold words.Originally posted by 89gt-stanger View PostThat shines some light. Like said above, the fed, backed by the Congress and the Pres, are committing fraud on the people of the UD. Fuck them"When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic." -Benjamin Franklin
"A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury." -Alexander Fraser Tytler
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Then argue these falsehoods, and stop being a nut hugger. Your view of these candidates is screwed. Right now all you are doing is looking at a murderer and an annoying guy and deciding to attack the annoying guy. Prove the murderer isn't guilty and then I'll worry about your opinion of the annoying guy.Originally posted by A+ View PostHe's not my messiah. And i never said i cared for the way he runs the country either. Hell, i never even said i voted for the guy. I just started posting because of all the negative posts in this forum about the potus, did some homework on these topics and found that the majority of them were a tad bit askew if not, completely off or false.
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Here's something you can study on: Going into effect on January 1, 2013, are 20 or more new/increased taxes involving your hero Barry, here are the top 5- 1)$20 billion NEW tax on medical device businesses. They must pay 2.3% on all GROSS sales, whether you're profitable or not. 2) $13 billion "special needs kids tax". 3) $123 billion ObamaCare Surtax on investment income. 4) $15.2 billion on medical accounts and will affect those with marginal incomes and high medical bills the most. 5) $86.8 billion Medicare payroll increase.Originally posted by A+ View PostHe's not my messiah. And i never said i cared for the way he runs the country either. Hell, i never even said i voted for the guy. I just started posting because of all the negative posts in this forum about the potus, did some homework on these topics and found that the majority of them were a tad bit askew if not, completely off or false.
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Wow. I just re-read that a few times. Crazy stuff.Originally posted by CJ View PostJust focus on those bold words in that quote from the fed and their ambition, and remember that's $40 billion of our dollars and that is what they spent it on, those bold words.
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If people aren't buying right now with 3% mortgages available, what will 2% do? This is what happens when a fucking "community organizer" who has never had a real job, is in control of an economy.Originally posted by CJ View PostJust focus on those bold words in that quote from the fed and their ambition, and remember that's $40 billion of our dollars and that is what they spent it on, those bold words.
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QE3 is yet another vehicle for inflation. This administration feels compelled to force the free market to do whatever they want. It's the entire modus operandi of this administration - force everything to work the way they want it. If they can't produce results, they will fake them. The victim is the people and an economy that is perpetually in a state of stimulation, and never recovery.Originally posted by Vertnut View PostIf people aren't buying right now with 3% mortgages available, what will 2% do? This is what happens when a fucking "community organizer" who has never had a real job, is in control of an economy."When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic." -Benjamin Franklin
"A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury." -Alexander Fraser Tytler
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I pity the next POTUS who has to deal with this. Poor bastard...Originally posted by CJ View PostQE3 is yet another vehicle for inflation. This administration feels compelled to force the free market to do whatever they want. It's the entire modus operandi of this administration - force everything to work the way they want it. If they can't produce results, they will fake them. The victim is the people and an economy that is perpetually in a state of stimulation, and never recovery.
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It's not rocket science it's economics, just get your damn hands out of the free market system and let it correct itself.Originally posted by Vertnut View PostI pity the next POTUS who has to deal with this. Poor bastard..."When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic." -Benjamin Franklin
"A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury." -Alexander Fraser Tytler
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It's not rocket science it's economics, just get your damn hands out of the free market system and let it correct itself. Whenever the market is about to correct itself (which usually comes with a temporarily negative outlook) the administration steps in and stimulates so they don't look bad.Originally posted by Vertnut View PostI pity the next POTUS who has to deal with this. Poor bastard..."When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic." -Benjamin Franklin
"A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury." -Alexander Fraser Tytler
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^watch it buddy, I'm from Canaduh
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