Debate #3

[brandon01rt]

So what exactly was mitt's stance in the auto industry collapse? Managed bankruptcy with government help?

[runin90lx]

Exactly. Oil and Gas workers make tons of money and they aren't union. They aren't lazy either. Most gas companies will tell you to take a hike if you're union. They don't want any part of that shit.

And that's exactly why probably 95% of workers in the northeast gas plays are from Texas and Louisiana. And why all the union people from there hate the oilfield

[naynay]

Yep. That's why all the new car companies are starting in right to work states and outstripping union jobs in benefits and pay. That's why Toyota and other 'foreign' car companies have better quality because there is no union to hide behind if you fuck up and fuck up a car.

texas is a right-to-work state...

[Forever_frost]

texas is a right-to-work state...

Yep. And unions and liberals despise it

[Forever_frost]

So what exactly was mitt's stance in the auto industry collapse? Managed bankruptcy with government help?

That's why there are bankruptcy laws

[Trip McNeely]

And that's exactly why probably 95% of workers in the northeast gas plays are from Texas and Louisiana. And why all the union people from there hate the oilfield

haha yep. And they wonder why we bring them up. The only union guys are independent welders. There are a FEW pipeliners, but they are from up here. It's funny that these union guys don't know what 24/7 on call or overnight work is. Thats when they get the southerners up here to work, they don't complain.

[Forever_frost]

haha yep. And they wonder why we bring them up. The only union guys are independent welders. There are a FEW pipeliners, but they are from up here. It's funny that these union guys don't know what 24/7 on call or overnight work is. Thats when they get the southerners up here to work, they don't complain.

Just think about all the jobs and advancements that would never have come about if unions had a say. "No overnight work!" "No long hours!" "Full benefits!" Could you imagine if the Wright Brothers had to get unions to build their plane?

[Trip McNeely]

Just think about all the jobs and advancements that would never have come about if unions had a say. "No overnight work!" "No long hours!" "Full benefits!" Could you imagine if the Wright Brothers had to get unions to build their plane?

Can you imagine what America would be like if Unions held the oil/gas industry hostage with strikes???? It would bring the US to a screeching halt.

[Forever_frost]

Can you imagine what America would be like if Unions held the oil/gas industry hostage with strikes???? It would bring the US to a screeching halt.

No shit. Gas prices 10 bucks a gallon and would take months to make up for one day of strike. Fuck unions. No industry has been made better by them

[samuel642000]

haha yep. And they wonder why we bring them up. The only union guys are independent welders. There are a FEW pipeliners, but they are from up here. It's funny that these union guys don't know what 24/7 on call or overnight work is. Thats when they get the southerners up here to work, they don't complain.

When I was welding up north union workers would freak out when they heard about the long hours we pulled. "You worked 15 hrs yesterday?" like it was a big deal.
That's just the tip of the iceberg. They forced us to stop working when we were wiring until they had a union worker working with us, because we were " taking a union members money out of their pockets."

[naynay]

When I was welding up north union workers would freak out when they heard about the long hours we pulled. "You worked 15 hrs yesterday?" like it was a big deal.
That's just the tip of the iceberg. They forced us to stop working when we were wiring until they had a union worker working with us, because we were " taking a union members money out of their pockets."

cba

[Forever_frost]

We should all get along. We all want to go the same place. Let's just sit down, smoke some good grass and talk all of this out

[samuel642000]

cba

You know it dawg.

One day you union boys might be able to keep up.






Maybe

[Forever_frost]

Well the moderator is to his left.

The moderator was fair and balanced

[Forever_frost]

I don't know what you just said man, but you're special.