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  • naynay
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    why dont you go back to ireland then

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  • DON SVO
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    Originally posted by naynay View Post
    because one man can fix "power lines".. lol

    if you dont know what you are talking about then stop. labor is regulated because it needs to be... i'll be the first to tell you even if my breaker panel goes on the fritz the last thing i want is some slack jawed yokel with his hand out showing up asking how much im willing to pay him to fix it..
    That's fine and dandy for local work during normal hours and not under a state of emergency. This isn't a breaker box. I'm relatively certain that linemen from Alabama that fix local power line issues are more than capable of RESTORING POWER SO THAT PEOPLE DON'T DIE. It's already irking me that you think just because someone hasn't joined the Union means he's absolutely 100% unqualified to even fart in the same room as you... A bunch of union fucks sitting around, pumping their dicks in a handheld union-sponsored bukkake, is downright depressing and furthers my sentiment that this country is going to absolute shit so that an entitled few can feel better about themselves.

    You're missing the point here.

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  • Forever_frost
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    Originally posted by naynay View Post
    the fact you said "pipe welding busingess" lets me know he is ratty as fuck and you have no clue what you are talking about. I do multi-multi million dollar jobs, the way you describe it he builds fences.

    have fun on your jazzercise with your mail order bride!
    Actually, he does do pipe fences. Quite a bit of money in it judging from his house and the amount of land he has.

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  • naynay
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    Originally posted by Trip McNeely View Post
    Honest question, Why do you need representation? If you do a good job, why would you need that? They can't fire you for no reason, they have laws. People get sued these days for shit like that so it makes it impossible. If you don't like your job, then you can find another one. I don't understand this mentality that you have to be babysat by a union. I work for myself, I don't need anyone watching out for me. The government is a great example of why I wouldn't. It's like growing up and moving out, cut the cord.
    im not i've worked for 2 contractors out of the 13 total. but when you work hand in hand with people who get paid the same you start to earn a respect for the people that know what the fuck they are doing and you start to learn shit you wouldnt have learned on your own.. im an independent contractor too dude. my liscense number is 45026 on the tsbpe website, you can look that up and see it has no affiliations with anyone at all. that number is my money maker, the union's CBA just makes it that much more worthwhile.

    good night trolls, im working 12 hours of time.5 tomorrow and 8 hours of double time sunday. i'll see ya at the check cashing joint tuesday!

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  • naynay
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    Originally posted by Forever_frost View Post
    Hell no. You see, I can talk to employers on my own without having to hide behind people more productive than me. My neighbor owns his own pipe welding business and is as anti union as I am. Also, his exact words "Obama can suck my nutsack that communist little bitch."

    But nice attempt. Get on your bike and go peddle around the block
    the fact you said "pipe welding busingess" lets me know he is ratty as fuck and you have no clue what you are talking about. I do multi-multi million dollar jobs, the way you describe it he builds fences.

    have fun on your jazzercise with your mail order bride!

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  • naynay
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    Originally posted by Forever_frost View Post
    Also, how long will it take those 'international' union members to get their shit together and book a flight and then fly in, inspect their hotel room and bitch about it, get moved around until they're happy and then head to work for 8 hours, getting their mandatory breaks?

    Meanwhile, non union labor gets the shit done
    most of that is true, except we work up to 16 hours a day and anything after 8 is time and a half and anything over 12 is double time.. put yourself in those guys shoes.. would you rather make $21.75/hr and work straight time for 12 hours or make $30/hr and have those type of benefits.. you're self entitled

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  • Forever_frost
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    Originally posted by Trip McNeely View Post
    Honest question, Why do you need representation? If you do a good job, why would you need that? They can't fire you for no reason, they have laws. People get sued these days for shit like that so it makes it impossible. If you don't like your job, then you can find another one. I don't understand this mentality that you have to be babysat by a union. I work for myself, I don't need anyone watching out for me. The government is a great example of why I wouldn't. It's like growing up and moving out, cut the cord.
    Yep. It's the "I need a babysitter" mentality. Absolutely pisses me off. And if your union votes in a way that is contrary to what you want or benefits you, you're fucked.

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  • Trip McNeely
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    Originally posted by naynay View Post
    if you actually had a job, wouldnt you love to have representation like that? im sure your neighbor is a union man and realizes you arent gonna mow your own lawn so he'll just do it himself so at least it will get done and help keep cooper beautiful.
    Honest question, Why do you need representation? If you do a good job, why would you need that? They can't fire you for no reason, they have laws. People get sued these days for shit like that so it makes it impossible. If you don't like your job, then you can find another one. I don't understand this mentality that you have to be babysat by a union. I work for myself, I don't need anyone watching out for me. The government is a great example of why I wouldn't. It's like growing up and moving out, cut the cord.

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  • Forever_frost
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    Originally posted by naynay View Post
    if you actually had a job, wouldnt you love to have representation like that? im sure your neighbor is a union man and realizes you arent gonna mow your own lawn so he'll just do it himself so at least it will get done and help keep cooper beautiful.
    Hell no. You see, I can talk to employers on my own without having to hide behind people more productive than me. My neighbor owns his own pipe welding business and is as anti union as I am. Also, his exact words "Obama can suck my nutsack that communist little bitch."

    But nice attempt. Get on your bike and go peddle around the block

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  • naynay
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    Originally posted by Forever_frost View Post
    “I just want the members to have a say,” Hutchinson said in an interview. “Whatever 50 per cent plus one of the membership decides I’m willing to accept, but the membership needs to be asked what they want.”


    http://www.laborunionreport.com/port...nion-violence/
    if you actually had a job, wouldnt you love to have representation like that? im sure your neighbor is a union man and realizes you arent gonna mow your own lawn so he'll just do it himself so at least it will get done and help keep cooper beautiful.

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  • Forever_frost
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    Originally posted by naynay View Post
    because one man can fix "power lines".. lol

    if you dont know what you are talking about then stop. labor is regulated because it needs to be... i'll be the first to tell you even if my breaker panel goes on the fritz the last thing i want is some slack jawed yokel with his hand out showing up asking how much im willing to pay him to fix it..
    Meanwhile the last one I want with his hand in my breaker box is some guy protected from firing by a union who was productive 20 years ago but is still on the roster because you can't fire him without firing everyone hired after him first.

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  • Trip McNeely
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    Originally posted by naynay View Post
    i didnt read it all but was there any mention of any us president in that article i copied and pasted from http://philanthropy.com/blogs/world-...nd-raising/219

    just curious?

    and i only quote mr. BMW himself b/c he seems the most philanthropic of this bunch.
    Oh because Kanye West wasn't trying to be a political device AGAINST BUSH for Hurricane Katrina? And this concert tonight isn't a political device FOR OBAMA? Riiiight. You are either ignorant or blind. I'm going with the former.

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  • Forever_frost
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    Also, how long will it take those 'international' union members to get their shit together and book a flight and then fly in, inspect their hotel room and bitch about it, get moved around until they're happy and then head to work for 8 hours, getting their mandatory breaks?

    Meanwhile, non union labor gets the shit done

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  • naynay
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    Originally posted by DON SVO View Post
    No, if they're putting out an 'international' call they don't have the man power now do they? What they're doing is railroading the state and the general populous. They're telling people freezing and starving that they can die until a union fuck face shows up to fix the power lines.

    Don't make me go all Avery's Dad/OneEyedWillie on you and keep repeating myself.
    because one man can fix "power lines".. lol

    if you dont know what you are talking about then stop. labor is regulated because it needs to be... i'll be the first to tell you even if my breaker panel goes on the fritz the last thing i want is some slack jawed yokel with his hand out showing up asking how much im willing to pay him to fix it..

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  • Forever_frost
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    Originally posted by naynay View Post
    they sure do have the man power to fix it.. IBEW is international.. they put an open call to all CERTIFIED UNION electricians.. a couple open shop dudes arent gonna show up and touch a damn thing, until they buy their book and pay some dues.. sorry thats the way it is..

    and FF, no one is really willing to go to prison for murder over a job.. it'll get done when it gets done.. where were those bama boys when katrina hit? tempt me.
    Problem is, unions aren't prosecuted like normal people.

    Here's just one example. I literally have 164,000,000 showing

    A rebellion against leaders of the United Steelworkers at U.S. Steel has broken into the open.

    Dissidents are angry because Local 1005 president Rolf Gerstenberger is refusing to let members vote on a motion to reopen negotiations with the company. They want district or national union officers to step in and hold a secret ballot vote.

    There has been an undercurrent of dissent in the union ever since the company locked the gates of the Wilcox Street plant in November, but the unorganized faction has confined itself to speaking at union meetings and through anonymous flyers and Internet postings. Until now, no one has spoken openly.

    “I want the negotiating committee to ask members what they want and to take that direction,” said George Hutchinson, who has become the most vocal of the dissidents arguing since November that the union negotiating committee should be ordered to restart talks.

    A December motion to do that was overwhelmingly defeated, and a recent effort to reintroduce the topic was ruled out of order by Gerstenberger. A subsequent motion challenging that ruling was overwhelmingly defeated. While both sides claim the support of a silent majority of members, those two votes are the only measures of support so far.

    “I just want the members to have a say,” Hutchinson said in an interview. “Whatever 50 per cent plus one of the membership decides I’m willing to accept, but the membership needs to be asked what they want.”

    Hutchinson is one of nine union members who contacted The Spectator after the May 18 union meeting. Four of those agreed to have their names published as part of this story, but all say they expect some level of retaliation for speaking out.

    “It’s not like they’re smashing your windows or slashing your tires, but you don’t feel safe doing this,” said Brian Walpack.

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