So who is the next GOP candidate

[big_tiger]

CAD424, What does color have to do with my selections? I was thinking of bold people that haven't been diluted by the GOP. I agree with they need to give up on abortion and gay marriage. That needs to be kept out of politics; personally I don't care.

[stevo]

Go back and reread my post, you know the part you highlighted? I said there were more, I didn't say how many more. And 2.3% is more.

...and go back and re-read my post where I said " I wouldn't call 2.3% too much more..." meaning, I acknowledged it was more, but by a very small margin.

Stevo

[cad424]

Rubio / Rand Paul | Allan West

All three of them are excellent choices however it will appear far too reactionary to start highlighting all the non-white republicans.

Rand Paul is an interesting name because I truly think that in order for the GOP to survive is to ultimately become more libertarian overall.

They need to stop harping on abortion and gay marriage.

People are saying exactly what I thought they would say after the election. People are bringing up every non-white republican they can. I get it, the GOP doesn't resonate with the non-white population. However non-white republicans are not going to be embraced with open arms.

The GOP needs to get real. Let's not start floating every ethnic name in the party. It won't work.

There's been a fundamental shift and we are now living in a center left country.

Obamacare is here to stay.

The supreme court will almost certainly become more liberal in the next 4 years.

Right now, the focus should be on House GOP leaders doing all they can to stymie the out of control spending. We should be looking to the 2014 mid terms with hopes of maintaining the house and hopefully gaining the senate majority. I doubt the latter happens.

I really think that the GOP we all grew up with died on Tuesday. We have to reinvent the party while trying to maintain traditional values. It's an uphill battle to say the least.

[CJ]

This
It also places restrictions that make it harder for some to obtain them.

Yes, it does. It does not ban them, and the republicans do not run on that, or propose it.

[4eyedwillie]

This
It also places restrictions that make it harder for some to obtain them.

[CJ]

I'm not here to argue the actual issue of whether or not it is right or wrong, but



is fairly clear, at least in my small mind, that the the party supports an new amendment to ban abortion based on the right to life. Obviously I must not be the only one either. And for the record as a parent of two kids I do not personally support abortion.

Do you know why there hasn't been an amendment to the constitution is decades? It requires 75% of states to ratify, it would never happen. There will never be another amendment to the constitution. The GOP sets forth regulations on abortions that mirror democrats. If the party platform was to ban abortions, there would be no stipulations on them.

[jw33]

I'm not here to argue the actual issue of whether or not it is right or wrong, but

We support a human life amendment to the Constitution and endorse legislation to make clear that the Fourteenth Amendment’s protections apply to unborn children.

is fairly clear, at least in my small mind, that the the party supports an new amendment to ban abortion based on the right to life. Obviously I must not be the only one either. And for the record as a parent of two kids I do not personally support abortion.

[CJ]

http://www.scribd.com/doc/104221532/2012-Gop-Platform

Page 13 and 14.

Did you even read this? This revolves around partial birth abortions (which 90% of democrats also support), taxpayer funded abortions (which is a federal law), and waiting periods for abortions. In this very document they are explaining they are against "no abortions." It sets stipulations for how to handle abortions, and which they do not support. Democrats are practically identical.

What you've done is assumed what you were told is true. You're learning now that it isn't.

[Avery'sDad]

I'm thinking Ben Ghazi. He seemed to be pretty popular with the GOP.

[4eyedwillie]

No, it didn't state no abortions, post up proof right now. I guess we're going to have to do this the hard way to get you to learn. You are very ignorant.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/104221532/2012-Gop-Platform

Page 13 and 14.

[CJ]

The word abortion is in the 2012 Republican party platform 19 times. The democratic platform has it 4 times. The strongest language to support the Republican party's view is in bold. However, most of the abortion talk is centered around not using tax payer funds to provide abortions.

That is verbatim what I said. Nowhere does it state "no abortions." It revolves around tax payer funded abortions (which is a federal LAW approved by both republicans and democrats). These diluted idiots seem to think a president can just miraculously instate a ban on abortion.

[jw33]

No, it didn't state no abortions, post up proof right now. I guess we're going to have to do this the hard way to get you to learn. You are very ignorant.

The word abortion is in the 2012 Republican party platform 19 times. The democratic platform has it 4 times. The strongest language to support the Republican party's view is in bold. However, most of the abortion talk is centered around not using tax payer funds to provide abortions.

The Sanctity and Dignity of Human Life Faithful to the “self-evident” truths enshrined in the Declaration of Independence, we assert the sanctity
of human life and affirm that the unborn child has a fundamental individual right to life which cannot be infringed. We support a human life amendment to the Constitution and endorse legislation to make clear that the Fourteenth Amendment’s protections apply to unborn children. We oppose using public revenues to promote or perform abortion or fund organizations which perform or advocate it and will not fund or subsidize health care which includes abortion coverage. We support the appointment of judges who respect traditional family values and the sanctity of innocent human life. We oppose the nonconsensual withholding or withdrawal of care or treatment, including food and water, from people with disabilities, including newborns, as well as the elderly and infirm, just as we oppose active and passive euthanasia and assisted suicide

[4eyedwillie]

You didn't say it was enough to do anything, you implied that there was a lot more people that didn't like him, I would not consider 2.3% to be too many more, as I said in my post.

Stevo

Go back and reread my post, you know the part you highlighted? I said there were more, I didn't say how many more. And 2.3% is more.

[CJ]

Rubio / Rand Paul | Allan West

Allen West.. fuck yes.

Should be the campaign slogan.

[big_tiger]

Rubio / Rand Paul | Allan West