Cops upset about being treated like citizens

Whoever wrote the article needs to go back to 6th grade and take a writing class. Whichever "manager or trainee manager" told on-duty detectives they had to leave should have been arrested for interfering with law enforcement and ALSO fired on the spot.

Get a grip on yourself.

[line-em-up]

Sounds like your just a cop hater and maybe got to many tickets so now all cops are bad. Cry me a river. You are in such the minority of the population that it doesnt matter what you think cause it will never change. You don't even sound rational.

That comment makes you sound like one of those asshole cops that thinks he can do what he wants.

So the manager made a judgement call to treat EVERYONE the same and some people got butthurt over it. So what. Maybe they can see how everyone else feels about being allowed to carry, yet be blocked by all of the places of business, such as Denny's, from carrying inside. It doesn't make sense to have to leave your gun in your car if you are carrying to protect yourself.

The manager was just trying to enforce the rules that were written for everyone. This was blown way out of proportion.

[line-em-up]

Whoever wrote the article needs to go back to 6th grade and take a writing class. Whichever "manager or trainee manager" told on-duty detectives they had to leave should have been arrested for interfering with law enforcement and ALSO fired on the spot.

Oh, let us ordinary sheople not say "hi" or make eye contact with a police officer or we will interfere with their job. That's total bullshit.

[samuel642000]

If you're on duty, you shouldn't be sitting and eating, should be stopping crime. If you're off duty, take off the badge and put up your gun. YOu're a citizen. Cops aren't a ruling class, they're servants.

Normally I'm on your side man, but this is a little far fetched. Even in the Army I know you stopped for chow.

[CexMashean]

If you're on duty, you shouldn't be sitting and eating, should be stopping crime. If you're off duty, take off the badge and put up your gun. YOu're a citizen. Cops aren't a ruling class, they're servants.

You're so fucking far out there and extreme.
You need help.

[houstondallas]

If you're on duty, you shouldn't be sitting and eating, should be stopping crime. If you're off duty, take off the badge and put up your gun. YOu're a citizen. Cops aren't a ruling class, they're servants.

Sounds like your just a cop hater and maybe got to many tickets so now all cops are bad. Cry me a river. You are in such the minority of the population that it doesnt matter what you think cause it will never change. You don't even sound rational.

[houstondallas]

No, their badge doesn't make them special. It makes them a servant of the public. They should be the first to leave guns in their car, afterall they are subject ot the same laws as we, are they not? And cops want to present a comfortable environoment for those around them and those evil guns. What if one of them snaps and goes on a shooting spree? Who will stop him?

Point is: If a citizen isn't allowed to exercise their rights and protect themselves there, cops should obey the same law. I know personally, I trust soldiers in uniform having a meal to respond to anything coming through that door far more than donut scarfing 5-0.

What law says guns arent allowed in Dennys....so hows that not subject to same laws?

Just like you said, police are to protect others. Therefore someone there to only protect themselves, isnt covered under the same duties as a police officer whos duty it is to protect everyone.

[Forever_frost]

No because your not on duty or have the authority for any enforcement action.

If you're on duty, you shouldn't be sitting and eating, should be stopping crime. If you're off duty, take off the badge and put up your gun. YOu're a citizen. Cops aren't a ruling class, they're servants.

[Forever_frost]

You cant really believe this, do you? Badge doesn't make you special? Its not about being special. But just for the sake of arguement, maybe not special but it does give you ability to do things only people with the badge can do. Is that special? I think so.

No, their badge doesn't make them special. It makes them a servant of the public. They should be the first to leave guns in their car, afterall they are subject ot the same laws as we, are they not? And cops want to present a comfortable environoment for those around them and those evil guns. What if one of them snaps and goes on a shooting spree? Who will stop him?

Point is: If a citizen isn't allowed to exercise their rights and protect themselves there, cops should obey the same law. I know personally, I trust soldiers in uniform having a meal to respond to anything coming through that door far more than donut scarfing 5-0.

[houstondallas]

I see it as they are asking police to obey the same laws citizens must. That badge doesnt' make you special. You want to eat at a gun unfriendly location, leave it in the car.

You cant really believe this, do you? Badge doesn't make you special? Its not about being special. But just for the sake of arguement, maybe not special but it does give you ability to do things only people with the badge can do. Is that special? I think so.

[houstondallas]

So is it an insult, a slap in the face to all the men and women who wear the uniform of the United States Military if we can't carry in there either?

No because your not on duty or have the authority for any enforcement action.

[Forever_frost]

So is it an insult, a slap in the face to all the men and women who wear the uniform of the United States Military if we can't carry in there either?

[houstondallas]

Belleville Capt. Donald Sax said restaurant manager David Rice then approached and told one of the detectives that a diner had complained about seeing one of the detectives carrying a gun.

Even though the detective told Rice all at the table were police officers, Rice insisted the detectives take their guns back out to their cars, Sax said.

According to Sax, Rice then told the officers that it is company policy to allow only uniformed officers to carry their guns into a restaurant and that a sign on the door stated that policy.

The officers all got up to leave, refusing to pay for their meal. As they were leaving, Sax said a Denny’s general manager, Michael Van, approached the group. He told them Rice was wrong and it was fine for them to stay and to keep their guns.

The detectives, whom Sax described as “embarrassed” by the incident, decided to leave anyway. Sax said the detectives made a point to check the door on their way out.

“There was no sign on the door (regarding firearms),” Sax said. “They all looked for it.”

Belleville Police Chief William Clay later issued an order to his troops, banning them from eating at that Denny’s when they are on duty or when they’re off duty and still in uniform. Off-duty and out of uniform, officers can eat where they want.

Belleville police also issued a press release, naming the managers and pinning the incident on “political stupidness.”

“This was an insult, a slap in the face to those detectives and to all of the men and women who proudly wear the uniform or badge and serve in law enforcement,” Clay said in the press release.

THATS A BADASS POLICE CHIEF. SCREW DENNYS

Of course, officers will still show up if Denny’s calls for some kind of emergency, police said.

The Denny’s managers, Rice and Van, were not available for comment. Corporate spokesperson Liz DiTrapano called the situation “a misunderstanding” and said there is no ban on armed officers.

“Obviously, all law enforcement officers are permitted to carry their firearms in our restaurants,” she said.

Belleville police said they would be following up with Denny’s management about the restaurant’s policies.

[ram57ta]

surely you arent inferring I'm an anti-gun dumbass?

Nope, but it sounds like an argument they might make.

And regardless how you see it, a private business can tell anyone to gtfo for whatever reason, regardless of their profession.

Might be true but its not a good idea to piss off and fuck with the people that protect you.

Sure it was fuckered up, but nothing warranted an arrest.. that's the only asinine thing posted.

Depends on how the officers present were approached and spoken to. Police officers have a lot of freedom in coming up with charges.

[lowthreeohz]

I see it as they are asking police to obey the same laws citizens must. That badge doesnt' make you special. You want to eat at a gun unfriendly location, leave it in the car.

Dude even Dennys said they allow LEOs to carry and it was a misunderstanding.