Divided we stand?

[Zfan]

This Nation has by majority become a Nation of lazy, free loaders looking for someone other than themselves to take care of them.

[stevo]

The US we grew up in is gone and is not coming back.

Old people said the same thing in the '60s and '70s. I don't buy it.

I buy it, how many freedoms have we lost since the 70's? The 80's? 90's? How many more restrictive laws have been passed since then? How much power has our federal government snatched away from our states, from our local governments?

It is going further and further down the shitter, year by year.

Stevo

[Vertnut]

I always liked Nixon. The "crimes" he commited were nothing compared to what the current POTUS is doing to the Constitution.

No shit! Two guys break in to check on some notes?

[The King]

I always liked Nixon. The "crimes" he commited were nothing compared to what the current POTUS is doing to the Constitution.

[Vertnut]

It was just about as bad in the 60's, but I was just a kid then and politics didn't yet matter to me.

I was pretty young during the '60's (I was born in '60). Most people wanted equal rights for blacks, and most people disliked Viet Nam, but the smaller, louder anti-war folks got all the press, just like now. Sure, there was the "klan", but most Americans knew it was wrong. A lot of folks forget that the Dems fought the hardest against "equal rights", and they also drug us into Viet Nam. After his first term, "Tricky Dick" got us out. Man, how the parties have changed. The division I see now is closer to a "Civil War"-type division: Democratic controlled states in severe debt due to poor management and out-of-control social programs, vs. Republican governed states that aren't giving away the house. We are talking about two VERY different philosophies, from cradle to grave.

[The King]

True the population dynamics have changed. It is what it is though and that SHTF moment could very easily happen at any time.

[Gargamel]

Old people said the same thing in the '60s and '70s. I don't buy it.

Conservative politics had a resurgence after the 70s...
Not so much this time....

I truly believe it will have to be a national SHTF moment before the pendulum swings.

[Mike]

Everyone go vote here http://www.dfwmustangs.net/forums/sh...232#post942232

This is our opportunity to come together!

[The King]

The US we grew up in is gone and is not coming back....

Old people said the same thing in the '60s and '70s. I don't buy it.

[Gargamel]

The US we grew up in is gone and is not coming back.

50 percent of the electorate wants the path we are now heading down and the numbers grow by the day.

States' rights have now become as much of a joke as our "limited federal government".

If I had the resources I would have bugged out already....

But since I don't....
Well, here I am I guess....

[machteck]

No

[The King]

It was just about as bad in the 60's, but I was just a kid then and politics didn't yet matter to me.

[ceyko]

To all of the older members out there, have there been previous times that are this divided over all fronts in the past? I feel like things have gotten really bad and our POTUS is dead set on creatin more division between the parties though his comments to the media and unwillingness to negotiate. Bit maybe it's just because I've paid more and more attention over the years.

I've asked the same question to every 60+ y/o I could and for the same basic reason. The answer is generally "no" that I've received.

[Forever_frost]

Obama loved the Egyptian uprising and the Libyan uprising. He seems to believe that it won't happen here, to him

[stevo]

Maybe during the Vietnam War or the Race Wars during the early 60's, but then it was mainly the extreme ends of the spectrum being so divided. It seems now the division is at the moderate level.

When the moderates in our country become as divided as now, it is time to really start worrying. Shit is on the path to get bad quick, it just needs a spark. the 0bama regime attempting to legislate via EO will be that spark. And how America goes, so goes the rest of the world. When the SHTF here, it will throw this entire world into chaos. Most people are oblivious to how fast this situation could dissolve into chaos, but the 0bama regime does, and that is why they are placing their chess pieces in place right now.

Stevo