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I watched that whole video. He was just about right on everything, he should have road the "shall not be infringed" any time that piece of shit attempted to reference ANYTHING in the constitution. And that jackass he was debating was a fool. Spouting off all this bullshit. "The Supreme court changes and expands the constitution every day." Oh really? Is that what they do? What a fucking jackass. The problem we have in this country is we have a people that has an ever decreasing amount of education. They simple do not understand our countries history, the meanings of the constitution and basic tenets of tyranny."When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic." -Benjamin Franklin
"A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury." -Alexander Fraser Tytler
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I would not put it past them. They rounded up the Japanese in much the same fashion in WW2. If they were willing to do it with people they will have no problem doing it with guns.Originally posted by DOHCTR View PostThe argument you have put forth has a gigantic flaw; Most firearms in the US are not registered. In other countries they were and the government knew exactly what you had. These countries also had no second amendment or gun culture quite like we do.
No lowly paid ATF agent or other federal official os going to go to Joe Blow's house who has 10 NFA items and ask him to turn in his shit. For people off the NFA, what are they going to do? Have you turn your shit in on the honor system?
Besides that, the Soviets did tell people to turn in unregistered weapons when they took over, and then they shot a lot of those individuals. Marcos did the same thing when he took power in the Philippines; anyone who did not turn in weapons by a certain date was a felon and the penalty was death if they found out.I don't like Republicans, but I really FUCKING hate Democrats.
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Agreed, far too much faith in that. The problem with law abiding citizens is they are law abiding. If people do not have the backbone to stand up, we will lose these rights. If all weapons are outlawed, where you are going to shoot them and teach your kids how to use them? If you can't shoot them, after a generation no one will know how to use the damn things. The sunset of freedom is never more than a generation away.Originally posted by LANTIRN View PostI would not put it past them. They rounded up the Japanese in much the same fashion in WW2. If they were willing to do it with people they will have no problem doing it with guns.
Besides that, the Soviets did tell people to turn in unregistered weapons when they took over, and then they shot a lot of those individuals. Marcos did the same thing when he took power in the Philippines; anyone who did not turn in weapons by a certain date was a felon and the penalty was death if they found out."When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic." -Benjamin Franklin
"A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury." -Alexander Fraser Tytler
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Remind me how internment happened again, with the amendments prohibiting it? They went door to door and took people in violation of their rights.Originally posted by DOHCTR View PostThe argument you have put forth has a gigantic flaw; Most firearms in the US are not registered. In other countries they were and the government knew exactly what you had. These countries also had no second amendment or gun culture quite like we do.
No lowly paid ATF agent or other federal official os going to go to Joe Blow's house who has 10 NFA items and ask him to turn in his shit. For people off the NFA, what are they going to do? Have you turn your shit in on the honor system?I wear a Fez. Fez-es are cool
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No. They are going to start off the easy way and require registration when buying. Then, they will require registration for other weapons you own. Then, they will require you to turn them in under penalty of law. Then, after they have gotten the suckers to turn them in, they will start targeting other potentially "crazy" people until they have drastically cut down on potential "enemies". Then, they no longer need to go door to door.Originally posted by DOHCTR View PostAnyone who thinks that people would go door to door asking for your rifles is an idiot.
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NY has already moved towards this with Feinstein pushing for confiscation as well. Neighbor thinks you have a weapon? Probable cause and police go through your house. They find anything, you're a felon and arrested immediately. Since it's a controlled item, your accounts are seized and property sold with funds going to the government. Look at the drug laws.I wear a Fez. Fez-es are cool
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And thanks to the Patriot Act they don't need a warrant and they can make up the probable cause.Originally posted by Forever_frost View PostNY has already moved towards this with Feinstein pushing for confiscation as well. Neighbor thinks you have a weapon? Probable cause and police go through your house. They find anything, you're a felon and arrested immediately. Since it's a controlled item, your accounts are seized and property sold with funds going to the government. Look at the drug laws.I don't like Republicans, but I really FUCKING hate Democrats.
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They've been creating these puzzle pieces for years. Now, they are getting ready to put the puzzle together. We won't know what it looks like until it's too late.Originally posted by LANTIRN View PostAnd thanks to the Patriot Act they don't need a warrant and they can make up the probable cause.
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You were proven wrong long ago. Look at Katrina.Originally posted by DOHCTR View PostThe argument you have put forth has a gigantic flaw; Most firearms in the US are not registered. In other countries they were and the government knew exactly what you had. These countries also had no second amendment or gun culture quite like we do.
No lowly paid ATF agent or other federal official os going to go to Joe Blow's house who has 10 NFA items and ask him to turn in his shit. For people off the NFA, what are they going to do? Have you turn your shit in on the honor system?Full time ninja editor.
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One battle line drawn.Originally posted by line-em-up View PostThey've been creating these puzzle pieces for years. Now, they are getting ready to put the puzzle together. We won't know what it looks like until it's too late.
Originally posted by Strychnine View Post“I’m not going to confiscate weapons from people that are law-abiding citizens. I’m not doing it and I don’t care what kind of orders come down."
- Spartanburg County, SC, Sheriff Chuck Wright.
And the other battle line drawn.
Civil War commences.
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