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    Missouri Bill Would Make It A Felony For Lawmakers To Propose Gun Control Legislation
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...6pLid%3D272187
    A Republican state legislator in Missouri has proposed legislation that would make it a felony for lawmakers to introduce legislation to restrict Second Amendment rights in the state.

    Legislation introduced Monday by state Rep. Mike Leara (R-St. Louis) would make state legislators guilty of a Class D felony if they introduce legislation "that further restricts an individual's right to bear arms." Leara said that the bill is needed because he sees a growing number of his colleagues looking to take away gun rights from the state's residents.

    “We seem to be having a lot of people willing to further restrict our constitutional rights and take our rights," Leara told The Huffington Post. "It is a push-back to the people who don’t believe in our constitutional rights. There have to be consequences to removing our constitutional rights.”

    Leara said recent legislation which would ban assault weapons and high-capacity gun magazines from being manufactured or carried in Missouri pushed him to introduce his bill. Under the assault weapons ban introduced by state Rep. Rory Ellinger (D-University City), Missouri residents who own assault weapons and high-capacity magazines would have 90 days to remove them from Missouri after the bill takes effect.

    Ellinger's bill was referred to the state House General Laws Committee on Monday, but no hearing date has been scheduled by the committee.

    “That went too far," Leara said of Ellinger's bill. "It was a confiscation bill without compensation.”

    The Missouri state Legislature website lists 24 firearms bills currently pending in the state House of Representatives. These include bills requiring guns to be sold by licensed dealers; allowing teachers to carry guns; lowering the age for a concealed carry permit from 21 to 19; and allowing state employees to keep guns in their cars when they are parked in state-owned parking garages.

    According to the website of the Missouri Sentencing Advisory Commission, those guilty of a class D felony can be sentenced to up to four years in jail and can receive a probation sentence of between one and five years. The text of Leara's legislation has not been posted on the state website.

    Leara said that he does not think his bill will face problems in terms of its constitutionality under the First Amendment or a provision in the state constitution giving legislators immunity from arrest for official actions.

    “If we attempted to take away people’s constitutional rights outside the legislative process or civil rights, there would be consequences," Leara said. "I believe there have to be consequences for this. I value our Second Amendment rights as importantly as civil rights.”

    Leara's legislation is the latest in a series of pro-Second Amendment bills being introduced in state legislatures around the country. They include a series of bills to prohibit the enforcement of federal gun bans in states, a bill in Mississippi to create a nullification commission, and a bill in Kansas that would prohibit doctors from asking about gun ownership.

    State Rep. Stephen Webber (D-Columbia) told HuffPost that there "are a ton of bad bills filed every year" but said that the legislature should have discussions about them anyway. The bill will likely be stopped by the legislative process or courts, he said. Leara should pursue defeating bills in the legislature, rather than focusing on felony legislation, Webber added.

    Webber also noted that he has concerns over the content of the bill.

    “I find it ironic that people are willing to sacrifice the First Amendment at the alter of the Second," he said. “You don’t make it a crime to bring up an idea.”

  • #2
    Yes, you do. You make it a crime to confiscate private property without compensation or permission. Any legislator who attempts to infringe on rights should be executed on the spot with a vote set up for a replacement within 2 weeks of the public execution
    I wear a Fez. Fez-es are cool

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Forever_frost View Post
      Yes, you do. You make it a crime to confiscate private property without compensation or permission. Any legislator who attempts to infringe on rights should be executed on the spot with a vote set up for a replacement within 2 weeks of the public execution
      Eminent domain precedent is not on our side on this one.
      ZOMBIE REAGAN FOR PRESIDENT 2016!!! heh

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Forever_frost View Post
        Yes, you do. You make it a crime to confiscate private property without compensation or permission. Any legislator who attempts to infringe on rights should be executed on the spot with a vote set up for a replacement within 2 weeks of the public execution
        Damn, I like the way you think.

        -Eric

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        • #5
          Originally posted by YOLO View Post
          Eminent domain precedent is not on our side on this one.
          Constitution IS on our side however. No law may override that of private property without compensation
          I wear a Fez. Fez-es are cool

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Forever_frost View Post
            Yes, you do. You make it a crime to confiscate private property without compensation or permission. Any legislator who attempts to infringe on rights should be executed on the spot with a vote set up for a replacement within 2 weeks of the public execution
            Can we place their heads on pikes in the center of town as warning to the next?
            .

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            • #7
              Originally posted by 71chevellejohn View Post
              Can we place their heads on pikes in the center of town as warning to the next?
              I like it. And you take office knowing if you violate the constitution, you forfeit your life. Knowingly and willingly.
              I wear a Fez. Fez-es are cool

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Forever_frost View Post
                I like it. And you take office knowing if you violate the constitution, you forfeit your life. Knowingly and willingly.
                What the fuck is wrong with you?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Binky View Post
                  What the fuck is wrong with you?
                  The list is pretty long but ultimately in this instance? An oath that drives me to protect the Constitution against enemies foreign and domestic. If you're in office, you are telling me that not only have you read the document, you understand it, the Founders and the limitations of government. If you put up a bill that conflicts with the Constitution, such as confiscation or gun bans, that is telling me you are knowingly in violation of not only the document, but your oath of office and should be held directly and immediately accountable.

                  For instance, I currently hold an office and take it VERY seriously. You won't find me doing anything that would possibly come into conflict with the Constitution, Federal or State
                  I wear a Fez. Fez-es are cool

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Forever_frost View Post
                    The list is pretty long but ultimately in this instance? An oath that drives me to protect the Constitution against enemies foreign and domestic. If you're in office, you are telling me that not only have you read the document, you understand it, the Founders and the limitations of government. If you put up a bill that conflicts with the Constitution, such as confiscation or gun bans, that is telling me you are knowingly in violation of not only the document, but your oath of office and should be held directly and immediately accountable.

                    For instance, I currently hold an office and take it VERY seriously. You won't find me doing anything that would possibly come into conflict with the Constitution, Federal or State
                    Cool story bra. You're fucking lying. And no, I won't explain it, because it's a waste of my time. You'll just dismiss it and go on about your merry way.

                    You hold an office you were APPOINTED to. IIRC, it regards only Vets, so I don't think you'd have an avenue to violate the constitution in an official capacity.

                    Should you run for public office, I don't know of many, if any, that would vote for a person like you. You bitch about current legislators not understanding the constitution, yet you don't either. Pot/Kettle?
                    Last edited by racrguy; 02-19-2013, 10:21 PM.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Forever_frost View Post
                      The list is pretty long but ultimately in this instance? An oath that drives me to protect the Constitution against enemies foreign and domestic. If you're in office, you are telling me that not only have you read the document, you understand it, the Founders and the limitations of government. If you put up a bill that conflicts with the Constitution, such as confiscation or gun bans, that is telling me you are knowingly in violation of not only the document, but your oath of office and should be held directly and immediately accountable.

                      For instance, I currently hold an office and take it VERY seriously. You won't find me doing anything that would possibly come into conflict with the Constitution, Federal or State
                      God how sad. you truly are lost.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Binky View Post
                        What the fuck is wrong with you?
                        Looks like he cares about freedom and hates tyranny. Got the same thing wrong me I guess. Hey have you ever been to a country where the leaders face no consequences? I can tell you haven't. Well I have and i can tell you its a new kind of fear.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by 91lxhatch View Post
                          Looks like he cares about freedom and hates tyranny. Got the same thing wrong me I guess. Hey have you ever been to a country where the leaders face no consequences? I can tell you haven't. Well I have and i can tell you its a new kind of fear.
                          You seem oddly familiar.

                          Does this guy remind anyone else of Justin?

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                          • #14
                            Seems like it Mike

                            Originally posted by 91lxhatch View Post
                            Looks like he cares about freedom and hates tyranny. Got the same thing wrong me I guess. Hey have you ever been to a country where the leaders face no consequences? I can tell you haven't. Well I have and i can tell you its a new kind of fear.
                            "I'm going to fight tyranny by putting folks' heads on a pike for merely bringing up topics!"

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by 91lxhatch View Post
                              Looks like he cares about freedom and hates tyranny. Got the same thing wrong me I guess. Hey have you ever been to a country where the leaders face no consequences? I can tell you haven't. Well I have and i can tell you its a new kind of fear.

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