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    House Republicans introduced legislation Thursday to reinstate the original work requirement for welfare benefits critics say was loosened by an executive order coming from the President Barack Obama.

    The bill, titled “Preserving Work Requirements for Welfare Programs Act of 2013,” will prohibit the Obama administration from granting waivers to the work requirements contained in the welfare reform legislation enacted in 1996 under the Clinton administration.

    “The welfare work requirements are essential to moving people from a government check to an actual paycheck and are supported by an overwhelming majority of the American people,” said House Ways and Means Committee Chairman Dave Camp in a statement.

    The Obama administration claims that it was giving states the flexibility some governors say is needed in meeting the work requirements during a soft economy. To qualify, the Department of Health and Human Services stated, governors “must commit that their proposals will move at least 20 percent more people from welfare to work compared to the state’s past performance.”

    Opponents of the waivers counter that they do not use the metrics contained in the law and will undermine them in practice.

    “The administration has provided no historical evidence showing that Congress intended to grant the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) or any part of the executive branch the authority to waive the TANF work requirements,” the Heritage Foundation’s Robert Rector argued in The Washington Post.

    “Welfare reform helped end dependency, reduce poverty, and strengthen the income security of millions of families,” Education and the Workforce Chairman John Kline said. ”President Obama’s waiver scheme will undo this bipartisan success by striking at the heart of the law’s work requirement, hurting families and taxpayers in the process.”

    In a letter to the Ways and Means Committee, the bipartisan Congressional Budget Office estimates that reinstating the work requirement would save the taxpayers money.

    “We estimated that enacting House Joint Resolution 118 would reduce direct spending by $59 million over the 2013-2022 period,” the letter states. “Additionally, we estimated the resolution would have no effect on revenues, no significant effect on spending subject to appropriation, and no intergovernmental or private-sector mandates (as defined by the Unfunded Mandates Reform Act).”

    Utah Republican Sen. Orrin Hatch testified in front of the House Ways and Means Committee Thursday on the issue.

    “Over the years, research has consistently demonstrated that a work-first approach, continuing an intense effort to engage the client in work related activities to foster an attachment to work, with a blended menu of work supports education and training has the greatest degree of success in getting clients off of welfare,” he said.

    Welfare recipients dropped over the decade following reform from 12.2 million to 4.5 million and 60 percent of mothers who left welfare were able to find work, surpassing many experts’ predictions.

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    House Republicans introduced legislation Thursday to reinstate the original work requirement for welfare benefits critics say was loosened by President Obama.
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  • #2
    Welfare should be considered a new form of slavery
    Don't worry about what you can't change.
    Do the best you can with what you have.
    Be honest, even if it hurts.

    "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy; Its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery" ... Winston Churchill

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    • #3
      If you are able-bodied and on welfare, your ass should be put to use. Digging ditches or writing code... what ever the fuck you can do.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Craizie View Post
        If you are able-bodied and on welfare, your ass should be put to use. Digging ditches or writing code... what ever the fuck you can do.
        Agreed. Same goes for disability, unemployment, workmans comp, or even social security.

        And yeah, I am serious.
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        After watching Games of Thrones, makes me glad i was not born in those years.

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        • #5
          Social Security is a bit different. Most people have been paying into that system their whole working life. It's not their fault it's a failed system. It needs to be revamped for sure, but most folks on SS have skin in the game.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Craizie View Post
            If you are able-bodied and on welfare, your ass should be put to use. Digging ditches or writing code... what ever the fuck you can do.
            I've always said the exact same, Don't like digging ditches? Get off welfare, simple way to motivate people to do something besides collect a check.

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            • #7
              Any check from the government should come with drug testing...2 birds 1 stone

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              • #8
                Originally posted by franks View Post
                Any check from the government should come with drug testing...2 birds 1 stone
                yep i have to pass a piss test to support some broke ass now they need to pass a drug test to get a handout. if drug tests were administered welfare would be cut in half or more.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Vertnut View Post
                  Social Security is a bit different. Most people have been paying into that system their whole working life. It's not their fault it's a failed system. It needs to be revamped for sure, but most folks on SS have skin in the game.
                  Most people on ss get back FAR more than they paid in over their lives. Just give em their money back and call it even. Im tired of paying thousands a year into a system i will never see again.

                  Im 26. No way this ponzi scheme wont blow the fuck up in the next 40 years.

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                  • #10
                    Where in the original law does it say the the president has the authority to grant a waivers.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by sc281 View Post
                      Most people on ss get back FAR more than they paid in over their lives. Just give em their money back and call it even. Im tired of paying thousands a year into a system i will never see again.

                      Im 26. No way this ponzi scheme wont blow the fuck up in the next 40 years.
                      It wasn't a Ponzi scheme until raided by Congress...

                      I'm 100% for drug testing before any handout.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by sc281 View Post
                        Most people on ss get back FAR more than they paid in over their lives. Just give em their money back and call it even. Im tired of paying thousands a year into a system i will never see again.

                        Im 26. No way this ponzi scheme wont blow the fuck up in the next 40 years.
                        I'm older than you by a bunch, and I won't see it either.

                        BUT...it's still different than welfare. People that are collecting now have at least contributed in the past.

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                        • #13
                          I'm on SS

                          Originally posted by sc281 View Post
                          Most people on ss get back FAR more than they paid in over their lives. Just give em their money back and call it even. Im tired of paying thousands a year into a system i will never see again.
                          If they paid me 5% interest a year for using my money for 50 years and gave all I paid in back, I'd be off social security in a heart beat. If I earn over 1500 a month on the side I have to pay ss back every dollar I make over $1500. I have that limit till I'm 65. After that I can make as much as I want. I'd gladly pay the taxes on being able to make more.

                          We should get more back than we paid in, who lets people use their money and doesn't earn interest on it? With just inflation the value should triple.

                          actually, from 1964 the dollar value due to inflation is X7
                          This easy and mobile-friendly calculator will compute the value of a dollar over time. For example, if you had $100 in 1980, how much would it be worth today
                          Last edited by jyro; 03-03-2013, 02:35 PM.
                          Don't worry about what you can't change.
                          Do the best you can with what you have.
                          Be honest, even if it hurts.

                          "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy; Its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery" ... Winston Churchill

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by jyro View Post
                            If they paid me 5% interest a year for using my money for 50 years and gave all I paid in back, I'd be off social security in a heart beat. If I earn over 1500 a month on the side I have to pay ss back every dollar I make over $1500. I have that limit till I'm 65. After that I can make as much as I want. I'd gladly pay the taxes on being able to make more.

                            X a billion!!!

                            I've been paying into SS since I was 16. Had to, couldn't opt out.. Hell yes give me every dime back at 5% and I'd jump for joy!!!
                            Natural law. Sons are put on this earth to trouble their fathers.

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                            • #15
                              hah

                              Originally posted by DOHCTR View Post
                              Agreed. Same goes for disability, unemployment, workmans comp, or even social security.

                              And yeah, I am serious.
                              I pickup trash on my street, will that count?
                              Don't worry about what you can't change.
                              Do the best you can with what you have.
                              Be honest, even if it hurts.

                              "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy; Its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery" ... Winston Churchill

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