bush & cheney

[Chas_svo]

Great question. One I could never answer, the idea of killing civilians, women and children in a foreign land never appealed to me. Again the author says he would have no qualms if he were in Afghanistan, but he was sent to play that criminals war games in a country that had no part in the war on oil. I mean terror

This comment proves how clueless you are, cum stain.

[Denny]

He served to allow pussies like him to whine. No biggie. Let him bitch. He earned it. Most of the other bitches bitching haven't done shit.

Bitch on, bitch.

[Vertnut]

He was featured in a documentary, "Body of War", several years ago, and has been a long time critic of the war in Iraq. Kind of a "poster boy", if you will.

I wonder how many letters like this were (and are) written by Viet Nam vets that were never published?

[Pokulski-Blatz]

I think he speaks for more people than he imagines...

You sound like a pussy too.

[Cooter]

Why join the military if you aren't prepared to risk life and limb? I never have understood some people that join. Some join for the "free college" and tried to get out when we were in a war.

Why comment if you didn't read the fucking letter?

[dee]

Being sent is part of the deal man. I was sent to Africa "to liberate the shit of them" and we did but I didn't want to be there either.

Iraq was a bad deal all around. On intel, some of which was partially fabricated by Iraq and the other half was filled in by SH not complying with weapons inspections and his illusive, suspicious behavior. Even SH said himself on trial that he was partially to blame because he deceit ultimately led to the Iraq invasion and us liberating the shit of them too. We spent 2 trillion and besides the most expensive embassy in the world and massive weapons and drone advancement we made it was pretty much the US trying to do the right thing by them. Should have left at Shock and Awe and SH being hanged.

Afg is different.

I am sorry for his sacrifice and that he feels this way.

SH didn't help his situation by firing at jets in the neutral zone either. His pride was his main downfall throughout the whole impending war. Now the weapons of md is an interesting subject since we knew he had some at one point but I don't feel like we ever knew exactly how much.

[Broncojohnny]

Hey guys did you hear? We won the war in Iraq.

[jw33]

I think he speaks for more people than he imagines...

[davbrucas]

Sounds like a liberal pussy that regrets joining the Army. Good riddance.

[Pokulski-Blatz]

http://dangerousminds.net/comments/d...eds_to_be_read




DYING VET’S ‘FUCK YOU’ LETTER TO GEORGE BUSH & DICK CHENEY NEEDS TO BE READ BY EVERY AMERICAN
03.19.2013


To: George W. Bush and Dick Cheney
From: Tomas Young

I write this letter on the 10th anniversary of the Iraq War on behalf of my fellow Iraq War veterans. I write this letter on behalf of the 4,488 soldiers and Marines who died in Iraq. I write this letter on behalf of the hundreds of thousands of veterans who have been wounded and on behalf of those whose wounds, physical and psychological, have destroyed their lives. I am one of those gravely wounded. I was paralyzed in an insurgent ambush in 2004 in Sadr City. My life is coming to an end. I am living under hospice care.

I write this letter on behalf of husbands and wives who have lost spouses, on behalf of children who have lost a parent, on behalf of the fathers and mothers who have lost sons and daughters and on behalf of those who care for the many thousands of my fellow veterans who have brain injuries. I write this letter on behalf of those veterans whose trauma and self-revulsion for what they have witnessed, endured and done in Iraq have led to suicide and on behalf of the active-duty soldiers and Marines who commit, on average, a suicide a day. I write this letter on behalf of the some 1 million Iraqi dead and on behalf of the countless Iraqi wounded. I write this letter on behalf of us all—the human detritus your war has left behind, those who will spend their lives in unending pain and grief.

I write this letter, my last letter, to you, Mr. Bush and Mr. Cheney. I write not because I think you grasp the terrible human and moral consequences of your lies, manipulation and thirst for wealth and power. I write this letter because, before my own death, I want to make it clear that I, and hundreds of thousands of my fellow veterans, along with millions of my fellow citizens, along with hundreds of millions more in Iraq and the Middle East, know fully who you are and what you have done. You may evade justice but in our eyes you are each guilty of egregious war crimes, of plunder and, finally, of murder, including the murder of thousands of young Americans—my fellow veterans—whose future you stole.

Your positions of authority, your millions of dollars of personal wealth, your public relations consultants, your privilege and your power cannot mask the hollowness of your character. You sent us to fight and die in Iraq after you, Mr. Cheney, dodged the draft in Vietnam, and you, Mr. Bush, went AWOL from your National Guard unit. Your cowardice and selfishness were established decades ago. You were not willing to risk yourselves for our nation but you sent hundreds of thousands of young men and women to be sacrificed in a senseless war with no more thought than it takes to put out the garbage.

I joined the Army two days after the 9/11 attacks. I joined the Army because our country had been attacked. I wanted to strike back at those who had killed some 3,000 of my fellow citizens. I did not join the Army to go to Iraq, a country that had no part in the September 2001 attacks and did not pose a threat to its neighbors, much less to the United States. I did not join the Army to “liberate” Iraqis or to shut down mythical weapons-of-mass-destruction facilities or to implant what you cynically called “democracy” in Baghdad and the Middle East. I did not join the Army to rebuild Iraq, which at the time you told us could be paid for by Iraq’s oil revenues. Instead, this war has cost the United States over $3 trillion. I especially did not join the Army to carry out pre-emptive war. Pre-emptive war is illegal under international law. And as a soldier in Iraq I was, I now know, abetting your idiocy and your crimes. The Iraq War is the largest strategic blunder in U.S. history. It obliterated the balance of power in the Middle East. It installed a corrupt and brutal pro-Iranian government in Baghdad, one cemented in power through the use of torture, death squads and terror. And it has left Iran as the dominant force in the region. On every level—moral, strategic, military and economic—Iraq was a failure. And it was you, Mr. Bush and Mr. Cheney, who started this war. It is you who should pay the consequences.

I would not be writing this letter if I had been wounded fighting in Afghanistan against those forces that carried out the attacks of 9/11. Had I been wounded there I would still be miserable because of my physical deterioration and imminent death, but I would at least have the comfort of knowing that my injuries were a consequence of my own decision to defend the country I love. I would not have to lie in my bed, my body filled with painkillers, my life ebbing away, and deal with the fact that hundreds of thousands of human beings, including children, including myself, were sacrificed by you for little more than the greed of oil companies, for your alliance with the oil sheiks in Saudi Arabia, and your insane visions of empire.

I have, like many other disabled veterans, suffered from the inadequate and often inept care provided by the Veterans Administration. I have, like many other disabled veterans, come to realize that our mental and physical wounds are of no interest to you, perhaps of no interest to any politician. We were used. We were betrayed. And we have been abandoned. You, Mr. Bush, make much pretense of being a Christian. But isn’t lying a sin? Isn’t murder a sin? Aren’t theft and selfish ambition sins? I am not a Christian. But I believe in the Christian ideal. I believe that what you do to the least of your brothers you finally do to yourself, to your own soul.

My day of reckoning is upon me. Yours will come. I hope you will be put on trial. But mostly I hope, for your sakes, that you find the moral courage to face what you have done to me and to many, many others who deserved to live. I hope that before your time on earth ends, as mine is now ending, you will find the strength of character to stand before the American public and the world, and in particular the Iraqi people, and beg for forgiveness.

—Tomas Young

Sounds like a pussy.

[KBScobravert]

He was sent to Iraq. We had no beef with Iraq. And it is clearly addressed to mr bush, and mr Cheney. It's a sad deal all around.

Being sent is part of the deal man. I was sent to Africa "to liberate the shit of them" and we did but I didn't want to be there either.

Iraq was a bad deal all around. On intel, some of which was partially fabricated by Iraq and the other half was filled in by SH not complying with weapons inspections and his illusive, suspicious behavior. Even SH said himself on trial that he was partially to blame because he deceit ultimately led to the Iraq invasion and us liberating the shit of them too. We spent 2 trillion and besides the most expensive embassy in the world and massive weapons and drone advancement we made it was pretty much the US trying to do the right thing by them. Should have left at Shock and Awe and SH being hanged.

Afg is different.

I am sorry for his sacrifice and that he feels this way.

[naynay]

Why join the military if you aren't prepared to risk life and limb? I never have understood some people that join. Some join for the "free college" and tried to get out when we were in a war.

Great question. One I could never answer, the idea of killing civilians, women and children in a foreign land never appealed to me. Again the author says he would have no qualms if he were in Afghanistan, but he was sent to play that criminals war games in a country that had no part in the war on oil. I mean terror

[naynay]

Very well written letter. I heard Levin read this on his show the other day. While it is directed at Bush/Cheney it would still hold true today. This is more of pissed off letter towards an administration that would put people into combat when they dont believe they should be there. This would basically hold true for Vietnam and most modern wars.

He was sent to Iraq. We had no beef with Iraq. And it is clearly addressed to mr bush, and mr Cheney. It's a sad deal all around.

[naynay]

Niggling troll is niggling.

Stevo

Your posts lack content. Move along if you have nothing to discuss on the subject.

Thanks and fuck you very much

[Machx2]

Why join the military if you aren't prepared to risk life and limb? I never have understood some people that join. Some join for the "free college" and tried to get out when we were in a war.