Kim orders rockets on standby to attack

[Denny]

Totally fucking agree. And frankly, I don't get it.

There is no money to be made in a swift, thorough ass kicking. You have to draw the mission out over years with vague objectives and goals only to end in either a tie or a loss so that there are options to start it back up later.

It is all about fueling the military industrial complex.

We haven't had a swift and overwhelming response since Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

Totally fucking agree. And frankly, I don't get it.

[Snatch Napkin]

Iraq may not have been as swift and overwhelming as our response in World War II was (is that honestly what we're really looking to do on a regular basis?), but it certainly proved that we don't have much difficulty disposing of power-hungry dictators and their paper mache regimes, even if we wind up there for 15 years after the fact.

Ultimately, yes. We, as a nation, should not have to react in such a manner every time. However, complacency builds in everyone. Occasionally, we will be required to remind folks of the fact that we have achieved Super Power Status. Do we need to turn North Korea into a glass island? (That hurts my wolf clad noggin.) Not yet. Do we need to posture along side China? Fuck yes!!!!

It's also worth noting (kind of the important thing here) that no one has ever launched a nuclear weapon at the US, even the Russians; are you really concerned about things not escalating properly if a nuclear weapon is launched at American soil?

The idea of me worrying about the aftermath comes solely from my lack of confidence in the current administration and their inability to handle situations properly when job security is on the line. Currently, the majority of the populace has their heads in the vagina of good time Charlene. They are not concerned with the worldly matters at hand and the fubar-ed reactions.

He's straining what few positive relationships he has left. People like to cite China's immense support of NK, but North Korea has shown a pattern of distrust of the Chinese (multiple purging of Chinese educated communists within NK government ranks because of fears that they'd try and encourage Chinese style economic reforms).

He's already lost the backing of the Russians, who have put up with a lot of shenanigans over the years.

China is where the crux lay, and I'm unconvinced that they're dying to get involved in an arm conflict with the US over North Korea. I'm not saying they won't, but I don't think it's likely. The counterpoint in this thread has been that the Chinese are 100% foaming at the mouth to start WWIII with the US; my only claim is that that's probably not the case.

This is where my hope is. Hopefully, this is all posturing. hopefully, Jong-Un figures out a way to receive this without thinking he has won a massive accomplishment against the U.S.


DISCLAIMER: I had to break away from this post 10 different times. If it is all over the place, I apologize and will try to fill in the blanks.

[dee]

North Korea has just approved the use of nuclear force.

http://m.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/north-korea-approves-nuclear-strike-on-us/article10735512/?service=mobile

[Slowhand]

"I don't have to prove me right, you have to prove me wrong!"

I really don't what else to say to it. A lone article being posted on ABC or FOX or Breitbart or HuffPo is no more authoritative than a lone article posted on the back page of the Klan's blog if no one else is picking the story up. Like I've said to him two or three times, being picked up by the mainstream media doesn't make it gospel, but rather the ability to substantiate and cross-examine the information provided does.

[lowthreeohz]

I'm tired of all the bullshit talk from both sides. Either get on with it or shut the fuck up. Like the Nike commerical says "Just Do It".

Post up that ghost W2..

Just do it.

[4.6coupe]

http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-22021832

This just in...

[Slowhand]

We haven't had a swift and overwhelming response since Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Frankly, I feel like we are seen as blowhards from the rest of the world. Naturally, that is an emotional statement.

Iraq may not have been as swift and overwhelming as our response in World War II was (is that honestly what we're really looking to do on a regular basis?), but it certainly proved that we don't have much difficulty disposing of power-hungry dictators and their paper mache regimes, even if we wind up there for 15 years after the fact.

It's also worth noting (kind of the important thing here) that no one has ever launched a nuclear weapon at the US, even the Russians; are you really concerned about things not escalating properly if a nuclear weapon is launched at American soil?

Jong-Un was raised in the environment of his father pilfering shittons (Universal not metric) of aid from any direction he could. We have given more relief to his people than any other country. This young pup is testing his boundaries. However, I have the feeling that he might be overloading his hummingbird asshole with his alligator mouth.

I seriously hope that China has moved into the region merely to calm this whippersnapper down and our government is aware of these actions. I worry that he will not register this properly. I'm slightly more apprehensive to the idea that this is staged.

carry on with the facts... I have none.

He's straining what few positive relationships he has left. People like to cite China's immense support of NK, but North Korea has shown a pattern of distrust of the Chinese (multiple purging of Chinese educated communists within NK government ranks because of fears that they'd try and encourage Chinese style economic reforms).

He's already lost the backing of the Russians, who have put up with a lot of shenanigans over the years.

China is where the crux lay, and I'm unconvinced that they're dying to get involved in an arm conflict with the US over North Korea. I'm not saying they won't, but I don't think it's likely. The counterpoint in this thread has been that the Chinese are 100% foaming at the mouth to start WWIII with the US; my only claim is that that's probably not the case.

[Snatch Napkin]

"I don't have to prove me right, you have to prove me wrong!"

The motto of the trolls.

[Snatch Napkin]

We have 'targets', but what of supreme importance can they hit?

On the other hand, no matter how deluded Jong-Un may be, he has to know that the response will be swift and overwhelming. I would also find it very unlikely that China would support North Korea if they launch any kind of strike without provocation; the Russians have already fairly definitively said they have no tolerance for NK on this conflict.

We haven't had a swift and overwhelming response since Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Frankly, I feel like we are seen as blowhards from the rest of the world. Naturally, that is an emotional statement.

Jong-Un was raised in the environment of his father pilfering shittons (Universal not metric) of aid from any direction he could. We have given more relief to his people than any other country. This young pup is testing his boundaries. However, I have the feeling that he might be overloading his hummingbird asshole with his alligator mouth.

I seriously hope that China has moved into the region merely to calm this whippersnapper down and our government is aware of these actions. I worry that he will not register this properly. I'm slightly more apprehensive to the idea that this is staged.

carry on with the facts... I have none.

[racrguy]

I said I'll ignore it because I can't figure out how to substantiate it; how does one gauge the reliability of the information? I'll be more then happy to take it under consideration if you'll provide a way to substantiate the information they provide.

"I don't have to prove me right, you have to prove me wrong!"

[Slowhand]

See post #285, you have already stated that you will ignore what you have blanket labeled "backwoods bloggers". If you want to disprove me, go ahead and do it. I, on the other hand, won't continue to be fagging up this thread with needless bickering, as I among others would like to keep it on topic. Do as you want.

Stevo

I said I'll ignore it because I can't figure out how to substantiate it; how does one gauge the reliability of the information? I'll be more then happy to take it under consideration if you'll provide a way to substantiate the information they provide.

[stevo]

You know you're in good shape when you bust out the ad hominem.

You still haven't solved the issue of substantiating something posted from a non-mainstream media source. Mainstream media sources can be vetted against each other for accuracy and determining what is commentary and what is fact; how do we do that for a non-mainstream source? Do you simply trust what they say because they're very clear with their biases and you find their biases agreeable with your own? Sounds a lot like NayNay's faith in Obama, to me.

See post #285, you have already stated that you will ignore what you have blanket labeled "backwoods bloggers". If you want to disprove me, go ahead and do it. I, on the other hand, won't continue to be fagging up this thread with needless bickering, as I among others would like to keep it on topic. Do as you want.

Stevo

[Slowhand]

Just as I said...



Anyways, nothing to see here boys and girls, nothing is going to happen at all, just bluff and gruff according to the masterminds at Baylor...

...but in other news... India announced today that it is sending another 30,000 troops to its border with China. This comes after India sent 30,000 additional troops to the border in March, and THAT is on top of the 30,000 troops it already had on the border.

Stevo

You know you're in good shape when you bust out the ad hominem.

You still haven't solved the issue of substantiating something posted from a non-mainstream media source. Mainstream media sources can be vetted against each other for accuracy and determining what is commentary and what is fact; how do we do that for a non-mainstream source? Do you simply trust what they say because they're very clear with their biases and you find their biases agreeable with your own? Sounds a lot like NayNay's faith in Obama, to me.

[stevo]

How am I supposed to put any stock into a "news" article reported by one backwoods blogger? The presence of something on one mainstream media site doesn't make it newsworthy; the ability to find the same information on multiple media sites and sort through the embellishments, conjectures, and unsubstantiated claims to find indisputable facts is.

Just as I said...

Any snippet I post from most any non-mainstream media site will just be dismissed by you anyways...

Anyways, nothing to see here boys and girls, nothing is going to happen at all, just bluff and gruff according to the masterminds at Baylor...

...but in other news... India announced today that it is sending another 30,000 troops to its border with China. This comes after India sent 30,000 additional troops to the border in March, and THAT is on top of the 30,000 troops it already had on the border.

Stevo