Kim orders rockets on standby to attack

[dee]

It came in too close to shore and ran aground. It was a crazy manhunt for the Special Forces soldiers that were on board.

So they can't operate it efficiently or don't have the technology to detect a shallow spot.

I work with a recent Navy sonar person. He says not to worry. The subs may be quiet now, but that NK's subs don't have very good batteries. Pretty soon, they will have to go back to diesel, which means they will be on the surface and will be easy to detect.

Kinda what I figured when electronic/ diesel was mentioned.

[Strychnine]

[line-em-up]

If SK can catch one it doesn't sound overly promising.

I work with a recent Navy sonar person. He says not to worry. The subs may be quiet now, but that NK's subs don't have very good batteries. Pretty soon, they will have to go back to diesel, which means they will be on the surface and will be easy to detect.

[DallasSleeper]

If SK can catch one it doesn't sound overly promising.

It came in too close to shore and ran aground. It was a crazy manhunt for the Special Forces soldiers that were on board.

[Strychnine]

Anonymous weighs in:

Instead, a picture posted Thursday on the North's Flickr site shows Kim's face with a pig-like snout and a drawing of Mickey Mouse on his chest.

[dee]

While they do have some obsolete Soviet era hardware, it appears they've been building their own subs for some time, too. They reportedly have one of the largest submarine fleets worldwide.

They have their own Sang-O class sub. SK captured one years back during a botched NK espionage mission.

If SK can catch one it doesn't sound overly promising.

[line-em-up]

Diesel/electric. The problem is that modern diesel electric subs are more quiet than most people think, and difficult to detect if they are just sitting on the bottom somewhere, waiting. Even if the US knows exactly where they are, unless we want to destroy them preemptively, they can be an issue.

Stevo

The Hunt for Red October

[BERNIE MOSFET]

Unless they have started building their own stuff a good portion is all old soviet union stuff.

And one would think the south could do a better surveillance job since they are next door.

While they do have some obsolete Soviet era hardware, it appears they've been building their own subs for some time, too. They reportedly have one of the largest submarine fleets worldwide.

They have their own Sang-O class sub. SK captured one years back during a botched NK espionage mission.

Anonymous weighs in:



SEOUL, South Korea (AP) -- Hackers apparently broke into at least two of North Korea's government-run online sites Thursday, as tensions rose on the Korean Peninsula.

The North's Uriminzokkiri Twitter and Flickr accounts stopped sending out content typical of that posted by the regime in Pyongyang, such as photos of North's leader Kim Jong Un meeting with military officials.

Instead, a picture posted Thursday on the North's Flickr site shows Kim's face with a pig-like snout and a drawing of Mickey Mouse on his chest.

Underneath, the text reads: "Threatening world peace with ICBMs and Nuclear weapons/Wasting money while his people starve to death."

Another posting says "We are Anonymous" in white letters against a black background. Anonymous is a name of a hacker activist group. A statement purporting to come from the attackers and widely circulated online said that they had compromised 15,000 user records hosted on Uriminzokkiri.com and other websites. The authenticity of the statement couldn't be confirmed, but the North's official website did not open Thursday.

Tweets on the North's Twitter account said "Hacked" followed by a link to North Korea-related websites. One tweet said "Tango Down" followed by a link to the North's Flickr page.

North Korea opened its Twitter account in 2010. It has more than 13,000 followers. The North uses the social media to praise its system and leaders and also to repeat commentaries sent out by North's official Korean Central News Agency.

Tensions have been high in recent days between North and South Korea, and the North's military warned Thursday that it had been authorized to attack the U.S. North Korea is angry about sanctions against its nuclear program and joint military drills between the U.S. and South Korea.

[racrguy]

still trying to make yourself feel superior I see.

[Pompous Ass] rahr rahr rahr I feel important [/Pompous Ass]

Holy shit, I can do it too.

Like little kids arguing over an OPINION.

Well, his opinion on that is superior to that of the glass island opinion.

[Gtracer]

No lives will be lost if we make North Korea a [redneck]glassssssss island[/redneck]!

still trying to make yourself feel superior I see.

[Pompous Ass] rahr rahr rahr I feel important [/Pompous Ass]

Holy shit, I can do it too.

Like little kids arguing over an OPINION.

[stevo]

That's disconcerting. What kind of submarines are we talking about here?

Also, it seems that the South struggles with the whole intelligence/monitoring side of things.

Diesel/electric. The problem is that modern diesel electric subs are more quiet than most people think, and difficult to detect if they are just sitting on the bottom somewhere, waiting. Even if the US knows exactly where they are, unless we want to destroy them preemptively, they can be an issue.

Stevo

[dee]

That's disconcerting. What kind of submarines are we talking about here?

Also, it seems that the South struggles with the whole intelligence/monitoring side of things.

Unless they have started building their own stuff a good portion is all old soviet union stuff.

And one would think the south could do a better surveillance job since they are next door.

[Slowhand]

That's disconcerting. What kind of submarines are we talking about here?

Also, it seems that the South struggles with the whole intelligence/monitoring side of things.

[Strychnine]

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-04-05/south-korea-on-alert-after-north27s-submarines-slip-out-of-port/3936064

S Korea hunts for North's missing subs

By North Asia correspondent Mark Willacy

Updated Fri Apr 6, 2012 1:21am AEST

South Korea is reportedly searching for four North Korean submarines that disappeared after leaving their bases on the tense peninsula.

A military source quoted in a South Korean newspaper says up to four North Korean submarines slipped out of port in recent days and have so far avoided detection.

The source was also quoted as saying that Pyongyang has stepped up submarine infiltration drills as the weather has warmed.

Seoul is now on alert for a possible strike against a South Korean naval ship.

The South accuses the North of using a midget submarine to sink the corvette the Cheonan two years ago, which left 46 South Korean sailors dead.