Gosnell case

[racrguy]

The operative is "viable". Define it please as it relates to this discussion.

Saved and Texan by the Grace of God, Redneck by choice.

Dude. We've been over this before. Are you incapable of carrying information from one conversation to the next?

[Tx Redneck]

The operative is "viable". Define it please, as it relates to this discussion.

Saved and Texan by the Grace of God, Redneck by choice.

[racrguy]

I think that's the problem with pro-choice people like you.
First you say ABORTION is OK
but after X weeks , OH NO ITS MURDER, but it wasn't last week. You know X days ago it was nothing, now it's a person!

You just make up shit as you go , moral responsibility completely aside. Forming your opinion around whatever personal narrative you want to meet a conclusion you prefer. Any means to whatever ends you desire makes it OK

Typical smug liberal bullshit idealogy, with little to no place in reality.

Everything you said is false, you ignorant fuck. I haven't changed my stance one iota from the very beginning of the talks on the boards including now. Do some research into the things that I've said. Until the point of viability, abortions should be legal, after viability, not. Which is odd, because that's the same stance the legal system takes.

[futant]

The problem is that he was doing abortions past the point of viability, which is fucking wrong, not to mention highly illegal. The dude is sick in the head and everyone involved should get the book thrown at them. Then you have the people who equate what he's doing to ALL abortions, and you have what the thread devolved into.

I think that's the problem with pro-choice people like you.
First you say ABORTION is OK
but after X weeks , OH NO ITS MURDER, but it wasn't last week. You know X days ago it was nothing, now it's a person!

You just make up shit as you go , moral responsibility completely aside. Forming your opinion around whatever personal narrative you want to meet a conclusion you prefer. Any means to whatever ends you desire makes it OK

Typical smug liberal bullshit idealogy, with little to no place in reality.

[Tx Redneck]

You really should recheck who the OP is.


Saved and Texan by the Grace of God, Redneck by choice.

I'm referring to your comment about "willfully turning a blind eye under the guise of pro choice"[/QUOTE]

Right on, that was not clear by your post.

Saved and Texan by the Grace of God, Redneck by choice.

[bcoop]

You really should recheck who the OP is.


Saved and Texan by the Grace of God, Redneck by choice.[/QUOTE]

I'm referring to your comment about "willfully turning a blind eye under the guise of pro choice"

[racrguy]

Maybe I missed something.

How did a discussion of murder (delivering a living, full-term, viable child then killing it outside the womb) devolve into the usual entrenched rhetoric of pro-life vs pro-choice?

There are witness accounts of this doctor playing with the living child then flipping it over on it's belly and killing it. This has NOTHING to do with abortion. You do know that, right?

The problem is that he was doing abortions past the point of viability, which is fucking wrong, not to mention highly illegal. The dude is sick in the head and everyone involved should get the book thrown at them. Then you have the people who equate what he's doing to ALL abortions, and you have what the thread devolved into.

[Tx Redneck]

Started with TX Redneck, then Sean's comment prompted Frost to chime in with his usual, off the fucking wall, onlymakessensetohisstupidass bullshit.

There are witness accounts of this doctor playing with the living child then flipping it over on it's belly and killing it. This has NOTHING to do with abortion. You do know that, right?

[/QUOTE]
You really should recheck who the OP is.


Saved and Texan by the Grace of God, Redneck by choice.

[ceyko]

In regards to what I understand from what FF originally posted, sounds like that doc was screwed up. I'm pretty sure we've all known a few women who have gone through this procedure and I'm pretty sure if their doc did that - they'd kill themselves.

I'll admit that I'm a bit of a hypocrite on the matter.

I'm often wiggling between 21-25 and under - I support abortions for most of that age group once or so.

Afterwards? No. i.e. when I had a couple of close calls when 16, I would've done one if the girl was wanting to as well. When at 33 (I think or 34) my wife got pregnant with twins the thought never crossed our minds.

I do understand what the pro-life people are saying though, and those pics posted above make it a reality that a lot of people do not think about too much. Still, in my heart (going against my religion) I feel it is better for kids to be raised in a more stable, mature and controlled home than some home where the parents likely hate each other anyway and are still in high school.

It makes me even more sad to hear of 17 y/o girls having their 4th kid. It's a vicious thing. I guess I wonder if it's mercy for the parents or more for the kids to be honest. People just pop them out and FF, you can say all you want - it's not going to change. You will be paying for people's mistakes in regards to kids having kids. You don't just snap your fingers and everyone does what you want them to do. There is what we know SHOULD happen and then reality.

[bcoop]

Maybe I missed something.

How did a discussion of murder (delivering a living, full-term, viable child then killing it outside the womb) devolve into the usual entrenched rhetoric of pro-life vs pro-choice?

Started with TX Redneck, then Sean's comment prompted Frost to chime in with his usual, off the fucking wall, onlymakessensetohisstupidass bullshit.

There are witness accounts of this doctor playing with the living child then flipping it over on it's belly and killing it. This has NOTHING to do with abortion. You do know that, right? [/QUOTE]

[Forever_frost]

He was abortion doctor performing abortions. Some VERY late stage abortions, but abortions none the less. That is how

[JP135]

Maybe I missed something.

How did a discussion of murder (delivering a living, full-term, viable child then killing it outside the womb) devolve into the usual entrenched rhetoric of pro-life vs pro-choice?

There are witness accounts of this doctor playing with the living child then flipping it over on it's belly and killing it. This has NOTHING to do with abortion. You do know that, right?

[Tx Redneck]

If it's their own body I have no problem. Do drugs, stick a your snoopy in a woodchipper, don't care. My issue comes when they infringe on the life of another. Another being with a heartbeat and is growing. THAT'S when I have an issue. When they take the choice of life from someone already verifiably alive? Then there's an issue.

No, they're just a parasite...

Saved and Texan by the Grace of God, Redneck by choice.

[racrguy]

You're actually equating people who kill children in the womb to failure of ovulation? You're beyond stupid

What the fuck!? Read what the hell I said, then read what you said, then reread what I said, then tell me if the two make sense. I'm pretty sure that one of us is beyond stupid, but my money says it's not me.

Nuff said.

Well looky what showed up. This stupid motherfucker can't read or understand reproductive processes either...

NO WONDER you motherfuckers are pro-life. You don't understand the mechanics behind it, let alone anything else about it.

[Woods Racing Transmission]

You must HATE your wife then. Some 50% of fertilized eggs are aborted naturally by the body of a woman. If I recall what I read correctly.

You're actually equating people who kill children in the womb to failure of ovulation? You're beyond stupid

Nuff said.