US Imam calls Muslims to wage war on US

[DallasSleeper]

He's a US citizen, he can't be tried in military court. I agree with that. If they hadn't let him become a citizen last year this wouldn't be an issue but with citizenship comes rights and protections

As much as I would love to see him shipped off to Cuba, I have to agree. Enough freedom was lost this past week. I am glad to see the Constitution actually working.

[Vertnut]

As much as I would love to see him shipped off to Cuba, I have to agree. Enough freedom was lost this past week. I am glad to see the Constitution actually working.

I also agree. As much as I see this ass-clown as a muslim terrorist, he is a sworn American citizen. It would make me a straight-up hypocrite to think any other way.

[Forever_frost]

And that is how the Constitution works. Doesn't matter what you're accused of, you get due process. If he was an illegal or even just not a citizen, zero protections, enjoy Cuba. The congressmen calling to call him anything but a criminal to be prosecuted by a civilian criminal court need to step down

[91cavgt]

It is actually really easy to stop the Muslim terrorists from doing anything against us, but it will take balls which the libs and most conservatives don't have. Right before killing one of the terrorists, we need to kill a hog and rub the blood all over bullets used to kill the terrorist. We need to video tape that and put it all out there so all the terrorists can see that if they mess with us, they will not only die, but they will NOT go to heaven in their book, and they will NOT get their virgins.

That would put a stop to them messing with us.

[Denny]

This is one of the reasons they kept him in a sedated state. Now that they have established this, they can properly Mirandize him. They also did it to keep him from communicating anything to anyone else, like hospital staff.

[Denny]

It is actually really easy to stop the Muslim terrorists from doing anything against us, but it will take balls which the libs and most conservatives don't have. Right before killing one of the terrorists, we need to kill a hog and rub the blood all over bullets used to kill the terrorist. We need to video tape that and put it all out there so all the terrorists can see that if they mess with us, they will not only die, but they will NOT go to heaven in their book, and they will NOT get their virgins.

That would put a stop to them messing with us.

Cause, MERICA!!!!

[Pro88LX]

It is actually really easy to stop the Muslim terrorists from doing anything against us, but it will take balls which the libs and most conservatives don't have. Right before killing one of the terrorists, we need to kill a hog and rub the blood all over bullets used to kill the terrorist. We need to video tape that and put it all out there so all the terrorists can see that if they mess with us, they will not only die, but they will NOT go to heaven in their book, and they will NOT get their virgins.

That would put a stop to them messing with us.

I was under the impression that if it was against their will, the whole pork thing didnt matter.

[racrguy]

He's a US citizen, he can't be tried in military court. I agree with that. If they hadn't let him become a citizen last year this wouldn't be an issue but with citizenship comes rights and protections

Yep, because the Constitution says it only applies to citizens and in the 5th amendment doesn't state: "No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation."

I was under the impression that if it was against their will, the whole pork thing didnt matter.

You are correct.

[Vertnut]

As of 2003, it's been determined by the supreme court that the 5th and 8th amendments do not apply to enemy combatants "held abroad".

[DallasSleeper]

Technically the Constitution does not apply to citizens or non citizens... It applies to the Federal Government.

I do have trouble with the thought process that our laws apply to non citizens.

Granted in this case we are talking about a citizen. But non citizens should not be offered ANY protection from our laws

[Vertnut]

Technically the Constitution does not apply to citizens or non citizens... It applies to the Federal Government.

I do have trouble with the thought process that our laws apply to non citizens.

Granted in this case we are talking about a citizen. But non citizens should not be offered ANY protection from our laws

I agree. That decision was based on the GITMO situation. I'm not sure about an American citizen carrying out an "act of terrorism" on our soil.

[Forever_frost]

Yep, because the Constitution says it only applies to citizens and in the 5th amendment doesn't state: "No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation."



You are correct.

"We the People of the United States." Again, you fail at this. The Constitution applies to Americans and Americans alone.

[The King]

"We the People of the United States." Again, you fail at this. The Constitution applies to Americans and Americans alone.

I think that is what he was saying in his post.

[dville_gt]

denny for president

[jyro]

I think you're very reserved

I'm rarely noted for being reserved in my thoughts and feelings.

Sometimes if we say what we actually think should happen, we'd be in deep shit when the wrong person reads it.