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  • The British Parliament has has voted to block any military action from their forces. Apparently the administration says they are willing to go it alone. We should walk away if the Brits have debated it and aren't willing.

    IMO Obama goes it alone, half asses it, and it blows up in our faces.

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    • Too bad our Congress lacks the stones to demand their approval prior to obammy taking any action against Syria.

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      • Originally posted by Vertnut View Post
        If your hero had kept his mouth shut about Syria "crossing the red line" with chemical weapons, he wouldn't have his tit in a wringer. Historically, an alligator mouth and a tweety bird ass is a bad combination for a POTUS. Putin and friends are just waiting to bitch slap Barry.
        That is what happens when you elect a "community organizer" from Chicago as president. This clown is so far out of his league it isn't even funny.
        Originally posted by racrguy
        What's your beef with NPR, because their listeners are typically more informed than others?
        Originally posted by racrguy
        Voting is a constitutional right, overthrowing the government isn't.

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        • Originally posted by Broncojohnny View Post
          That is what happens when you elect a "community organizer" from Chicago as president. This clown is so far out of his league it isn't even funny.
          I don't know about that, the SEUI did manage to piss off a lot of McDonald's and Wendy's customers yesterday. You assume he's trying to do what's best for America.

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          • Originally posted by BP View Post
            I don't know about that, the SEUI did manage to piss off a lot of McDonald's and Wendy's customers yesterday. You assume he's trying to do what's best for America.
            It's funny that NONE of the people that actually work at those establishments were picketing. All were "hired guns"...i.e.unemployed shills.

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            • Originally posted by BP View Post
              He shouldn't have picked John Kerry and Hillary as secretaries of state then.
              He remembers Hillary's reign while Bill was in office and he likes shar pei puppy dogs.

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              • In first major test, Obama overrules new team

                WASHINGTON (AP) — For President Barack Obama's new foreign policy advisers, the first test of their willingness to undertake military action wound up being a stark lesson in the president's ability to overrule them all.

                Obama's abrupt decision to seek congressional approval before striking Syria also overshadowed what had been a surprising level of consensus among the second-term team members about how to respond to a deadly chemical weapons attack against civilians in Syria.

                People close to the deliberations say Secretary of State John Kerry, Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel, national security adviser Susan Rice and U.N. Ambassador Samantha Power largely agreed about the need to use force to punish Syrian President Bashar Assad. While there were some differing views about the speed and the scope of an attack, there were no splintered factions the way there had been during first-term debates over taking action in Libya or launching the raid that killed Osama bin Laden.

                The advisers, two of whom are former senators, were also willing to proceed without congressional authorization. But on Friday night, after a week spent speeding toward military action, the president made a stunning turnabout and decided he wanted approval from lawmakers before carrying out an attack.

                "While I believe I have the authority to carry out this military action without specific congressional authorization
                , I know that the country will be stronger if we take this course, and our actions will be even more effective," Obama said as he announced the decision Saturday. "We should have this debate."

                The way the president arrived at his decision highlights what has been a source of criticism among Washington's foreign policy thinkers: a president who has centralized decision-making within the White House and at times marginalized the State Department and Pentagon.

                As Obama grappled with putting military action to a vote in Congress, he didn't consult his foreign policy team. Instead, he sought out Denis McDonough, a longtime adviser who now serves as his chief of staff. And most of the administration's foreign policy leadership was absent from the Oval Office meeting Friday night when the president informed several advisers about his decision to seek congressional approval.

                Rice, a member of the White House staff, was in the room. But Kerry and Hagel were only informed about the decision later that night during phone calls from the president.

                "All power flows from and into the White House," said Aaron David Miller, a former adviser to Democratic and Republican administrations and current vice president at the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars. "He's relied, not surprisingly, on a very close circle of trusted advisers. He really is a controlling foreign policy president."

                When the national security team gathered Saturday morning to discuss the decision, administration officials say there was pushback from some advisers, though they refused to say who was leading that effort. And at least publicly, the team now appears to be following the orders of the commander in chief.

                Kerry, the most recognizable face on Obama's team to most of the public, was dispatched to all five Sunday talk shows to defend the president's decision. Kerry and Hagel will also testify Tuesday before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee — a committee they each served on during their years in the Senate— as the administration tries to rally votes on Capitol Hill.

                The officials and others close to the deliberations requested anonymity because they were not authorized to publicly discuss the internal deliberations.

                As the White House appeared to be nearing imminent military action against Syria, Kerry was among those pressing for the most aggressive response. Even before being tapped to lead the State Department, the former Massachusetts senator had been pushing for stronger action against Syria. He has advocated sending more and better assistance to the opposition and has backed robust, though limited, military action to punish the regime and force Assad to change his calculation for continuing the conflict that has left more than 100,000 people dead.

                People close to Kerry say he was emotionally affected by the images coming out of Syria following the chemical weapons attack, particularly those of dead and injured children. He channeled that emotion into two powerful speeches, including one on Friday that appeared to be a prelude to a military strike.

                "History would judge us all extraordinarily harshly if we turned a blind eye to a dictator's wanton use of weapons of mass destruction against all warnings," said Kerry, reflecting what aides said was his strong belief that action was a moral imperative.

                Kerry made similar arguments during his turn on the Sunday talk shows, but emphasized that he supported the president's decision to seek congressional approval.

                Hagel, the former Republican senator now running the Pentagon, spent most of the Syria debate weighing in from Asia, where he was on a nine-day trip. While he declared during the trip that the military was "ready to go" if Obama gave the orders to strike Syria, he also appeared to be focused on the risks of acting without international backing. And like others in the Pentagon, including Joint Chiefs Chairman Gen. Martin Dempsey, he seemed to be considering the unknowable next steps after a limited military strike, particularly if it roiled adversaries elsewhere in the Middle East.

                Rice and Power kept the lowest profiles of the new foreign policy team during the Syria debate, both choosing to make their only public comments on Twitter. But their 140-character statements backed up their reputations as supporters of intervention for humanitarian purposes.

                Rice, who served as the U.S. ambassador to the United Nations before moving to the White House earlier this year, wrote that those responsible for the chemical weapons attack "will be held accountable." And Power, who now holds the U.N. post, wrote of the "haunting images of entire families dead in their beds" following the Aug. 21 chemical weapons attack.

                "Verdict is clear," she wrote. "Assad has used CW's against civilians in violation of international norm."

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                What an arrogant fuck.

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                • Originally posted by blownaltered View Post
                  Ron Paul's an idiot! Which is why he will never be prez.

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                  • I love how the liberal media as already trying to spin this shit into Republicans and the 0bama regime's own advisers forcing 0bama into considering the bombing of Syria, and that he is somehow fending them all off. It is truly fucking sickening.

                    Stevo
                    Originally posted by SSMAN
                    ...Welcome to the land of "Fuck it". No body cares, and if they do, no body cares.

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                    • Originally posted by QIK46 View Post
                      Ron Paul's an idiot! Which is why he will never be prez.
                      He isn't an idiot, but he has many opinions that are WAY too far out there.

                      Stevo
                      Originally posted by SSMAN
                      ...Welcome to the land of "Fuck it". No body cares, and if they do, no body cares.

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                      • Originally posted by QIK46 View Post
                        Ron Paul's an idiot! Which is why he will never be prez.
                        Hey I'm no Ron Paul fan I just thought that was funny.

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                        • Originally posted by stevo View Post
                          He isn't an idiot, but he has many opinions that are WAY too far out there.

                          Stevo
                          What is the saying that really smart people come off as really crazy people to really dumb people?

                          I am not saying anyone who disagrees with RP is dumb, because I don't LIKE everything he says but I do agree with most of it.
                          Fuck you. We're going to Costco.

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                          • Man, military people are mad:






                            Current/past service member's thoughts on this? IMO, you signed up, you were not conscripted. You do not have the luxury of deciding what battles you get to fight if you enlist.
                            Originally posted by lincolnboy
                            After watching Games of Thrones, makes me glad i was not born in those years.

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                            • so, now what?
                              THE BAD HOMBRE

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                              • Originally posted by naynay View Post
                                so, now what?
                                Now Obama a) gets what he wants and we attack or b) the rs stifle it and he turns it into " republicans love baby massacres" nonsense.

                                This really is the definition of being between a rock and a hard place. Get this asshole out of office already.

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