Hobby Lobby contraception case going to Supreme Court

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Don't bother. Any time he lacks a coherent argument he just repeats the word Constitution over and over again until the other party gets bored with it and gives up. I'm convinced it's a weird form of tourettes at this point.

Yeah I've watched most of 'em. Very likely I won't see this one through when something else distracts me. Hell, I'm on leave so I have almost as much free time as he does.

[CJ]

Well 695 then.

No matter how you slice it, they take your money. Your returns are your money they borrowed. Tyranny is real.

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You mean beyond the Supreme Law of the land that states that all powers not expressly granted to the federal government (18 enumerated powers and amendments) belong to the states. If that authority isn't granted to the federal government, they are unable (constitutionally and thus legally) to spend tax dollars on it.

Simple constitutional understanding. It's even written in English so it's simple.

How did you get that? Beyond the constitution, wtf? I specifically said past the "middle school learnings". You know, the ones that ignore all concepts and precedents of constitutional law that have occurred since 1787. You actually have a fairly strong grip on what the constitution says, but ignore the legal system and how it works fairly amazingly.

[racrguy]

Well 695 then.

[71chevellejohn]

After 2016, it is 2.5% of income above filing threshold or a minimum $695 + "inflation adjustment" - which means they just make up numbers to make their spreadsheets look better.

[racrguy]

You can take 2.5% of gross income from a turnip though.

That three or four grand is going to inspire lots of comedy right around April 2017 and honestly I can't wait!

Try $600, but unless they change the rules they can't take anything from me aside from a refund that I was supposed to get, which never happens anyway for a single white dude with no dependents.

I would not at all be surprised if they change the rules. In fact, I wonder what's taken them this long.

[Broncojohnny]

Good luck forcing me. You can't take blood from a turnip.

You can take 2.5% of gross income from a turnip though.

That three or four grand is going to inspire lots of comedy right around April 2017 and honestly I can't wait!

[racrguy]

Sorry, you can't do that.

Good luck forcing me. You can't take blood from a turnip.

[CJ]

If I have to start paying for insurance I won't have it, as I don't need it.

Sorry, you can't do that.

[racrguy]

Have you signed up? I also disagree with the term tax, because you have, theoretically, zero say in the matter. You don't play, you get fined. You do play, you get fucked.

Fuck no, they can lick my sack. However, my employer covers 100% of the cost of my insurance so at the current moment it makes little difference. If I have to start paying for insurance I won't have it, as I don't need it.

Evidently you don't.

Quoting the Constitution is an 'antic?' Damn. I mean, holding the federal government to it's framework is crazy and shit yo.

No, you not understanding what you're talking about and ignoring what doesn't fit into your preconceived notions is the antics he's talking about.

[Forever_frost]

Go impress someone else with your antics, when you start pulling this shit I skip over your posts or stop reading the thread altogether.

Evidently you don't.

Quoting the Constitution is an 'antic?' Damn. I mean, holding the federal government to it's framework is crazy and shit yo.

YOu mean I post up the document as written and ask you to do the same?

Go impress someone else with your antics, when you start pulling this shit I skip over your posts or stop reading the thread altogether.

[Forever_frost]

Don't bother. Any time he lacks a coherent argument he just repeats the word Constitution over and over again until the other party gets bored with it and gives up. I'm convinced it's a weird form of tourettes at this point.

YOu mean I post up the document as written and ask you to do the same?

[Forever_frost]

So when I bring up the supremacy clause, are we gonna do this dance all over again?

Not at all as long as you admit the Supremacy Clause covers only the things enumerated to the federal government while acknowledging the rest lays in the hands of the states. According to the Constitution

[bcoop]

Don't bother. Any time he lacks a coherent argument he just repeats the word Constitution over and over again until the other party gets bored with it and gives up. I'm convinced it's a weird form of mental retardation at this point.

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