Hobby Lobby contraception case going to Supreme Court

[CJ]

I really don't see how it's going to be our undoing, care to explain?

[Sgt Beavis]

Corporations are people.

That is why this court ruling will ultimately be our undoing. I support HB's goal but this will accelerate our countries decent into Oligarchy.

[racrguy]

So what should insurance be for? It shouldn't be used to pay for medications people need? For annual physicals? Flu shots?

Are annual physicals, medications and flu shots a regular health maintenance? I don't think you grasped where I was going when you responded like this.

And what was that already large problem?

See my edit. I typed it up before lunch and thought I submitted it, apparently I didn't.

[2011GT]

Let's be clear, the ACA was not a solution to a problem, it was another problem that exacerbated an already large problem. Insurance should be used in case of emergency, not regular maintenance.

Do you use your car insurance for maintaining your vehicle? Perhaps home owners insurance for regular upkeep on your house. Health is the only institution where we use insurance for maintenance duties, and the reason it has become as such is because 1) insurance is paying for it, leading to the idea that "It's not my money, so why do I care?" We need to tackle the cost and mindset issues, not who's going to pay for it.

So what should insurance be for? It shouldn't be used to pay for medications people need? For annual physicals? Flu shots?

[Rick Modena]

Much to Henry's dismay.

Ha!






Fuck that place!

[YALE]

Corporations are people.

Cognito ergo sum?

[CJ]

Corporations are people.

This country is so lopsided when it comes to the people vs corporations, I honestly can't believe anyone would be in favor of giving them more power. They already run the goddamn country.

[The King]

We dont share the same opinion then. The only reason employers started offering health ins plans was for it to be a benefit to help in hiring employees. The insurance co's put together a "group buy discount" so that they could sell it to companies.

So when looking for a job, one of the 'perks' was to get offered health coverage, and that may sway you to choosing that company, even if the pay wasnt equal. Now we expect it to be offered, and make laws to ensure that it happens.

Spot on post Baron. Speaking for myself, employer-sponsored health insurance was indeed a major factor in my choice of employers oh so many years ago.

[Sean88gt]

I guess the SCOTUS wont be making Chick-fil-A be open on Sundays anytime soon...

Much to Henry's dismay.

[Baron Von Crowder]

Insurance has apparently become an entitlement.

READ THE OPINION, make your own determination. If you go to work for a closely held corporation that holds their religious tenants in high regard, then expect them to be able to operate as they see fit. Which is exactly how it should be. The government should have ZERO say in how a company operates.

The discussion will become how broad "closely held" will be defined.

I guess the SCOTUS wont be making Chick-fil-A be open on Sundays anytime soon...

[Baron Von Crowder]

Let's be clear, the ACA was not a solution to a problem, it was another problem that exacerbated an already large problem.

And what was that already large problem?

[Sean88gt]

What the fuck!? Now employers can force employees to live by their religious tenets? Fuck this. They get one right with the cell phone decision a while back, then they go and fuck it up with this bullshit.

Insurance has apparently become an entitlement.

READ THE OPINION, make your own determination. If you go to work for a closely held corporation that holds their religious tenants in high regard, then expect them to be able to operate as they see fit. Which is exactly how it should be. The government should have ZERO say in how a company operates.

The discussion will become how broad "closely held" will be defined.

[racrguy]

Let's be clear, the ACA was not a solution to a problem, it was another problem that exacerbated an already large problem. Insurance should be used in case of emergency, not regular maintenance.

Do you use your car insurance for maintaining your vehicle? Perhaps home owners insurance for regular upkeep on your house. Health is the only institution where we use insurance for maintenance duties, and the reason it has become as such is because 1) insurance is paying for it, leading to the idea that "It's not my money, so why do I care?" We need to tackle the cost and mindset issues, not who's going to pay for it.

[Chili]

We dont share the same opinion then. The only reason employers started offering health ins plans was for it to be a benefit to help in hiring employees. The insurance co's put together a "group buy discount" so that they could sell it to companies.

So when looking for a job, one of the 'perks' was to get offered health coverage, and that may sway you to choosing that company, even if the pay wasnt equal. Now we expect it to be offered, and make laws to ensure that it happens.

Right there with you..