Hobby Lobby contraception case going to Supreme Court

[racrguy]

To most people, yes...

I was not aware that you were deemed the thread enforcement officer, so please move along with your bull crap.

I'm not a thread enforcement officer, but what you posted had nothing to do with the topic at hand. Typically it's beneficial to actually have a conversation about something and talk about what you think about a given situation. Apparently you can't be bothered to do that.

[Gargamel]

Fuck it, I'll disagree.

and I was just about to give you a thumbs up for your previous post....

Et tu, Brute?

[bcoop]

To most people, yes...

Fuck it, I'll disagree.

[bcoop]

If the company is paying for it, why shouldn't they have some say about it? If the employees don't like it, they have the option to leave.

Or pay for it themselves, too.

Ding ding ding. I've got no sympathy for anyone who complains about employers. You don't like it? Leave. You're not a slave. And Hobby Lobby isn't your parent. Go get all 20 forms of birth control from Wal Mart, and let me know how that minimum wage lifestyle is.

[Gargamel]

Gargamel, do you ever have anything to add to a conversation?

To most people, yes...

I was not aware that you were deemed the thread enforcement officer, so please move along with your bull crap.

[racrguy]

Is Hobby Lobby actually writing the individual checks for their employees healthcare or do they have an insurance company that provides their health benefits?

They're paying an insurance company.

If the company is paying for it, why shouldn't they have some say about it? If the employees don't like it, they have the option to leave.

Do we get a say in how our taxes are spent? Not that I agree with the ACA, but if it is a tax then they'll just have to nut up and deal with it.


Gargamel, do you ever have anything to add to a conversation?

[Gargamel]

It's a tax. It's not a tax. It's a tax.

What a cluster F....

Gotta love Sotomayor....

"Just pay the penalty..... oops, tax"

[Chili]

If they can't, they can't. If they want to mount a legal challenge, fine, but they should comply until it's resolved.

Is that not what they are doing?

[YALE]

hasnt it been extended 4-5 times now?

Yup. It's almost guaranteed to collapse, at this point.

[Sean88gt]

Or pay for it themselves, too.

There is that option.

[Baron Von Crowder]

If they can't, they can't. If they want to mount a legal challenge, fine, but they should comply until it's resolved.

hasnt it been extended 4-5 times now?

[Baron Von Crowder]

If the company is paying for it, why shouldn't they have some say about it? If the employees don't like it, they have the option to leave.

Or pay for it themselves, too.

[Sean88gt]

If the company is paying for it, why shouldn't they have some say about it? If the employees don't like it, they have the option to leave.

[YALE]

No, but employer contribution decreases.


Would you be ok with it if H-L was to decrease employer contribution like other companies have for the smoking thing? The ACA says they cant.

If they can't, they can't. If they want to mount a legal challenge, fine, but they should comply until it's resolved.

[Baron Von Crowder]

Health Insurance provides cigarettes?

No, but employer contribution decreases.

Easy. There's a linked cost increase to smoking, and secondhand smoking, and other things like physical fitness and obesity. They can't make you refrain from those, but they can let you foot the bill for them. Before you go jumping ahead, and saying paying for birth control is a corollary cost, it's actually a savings, as deferring the cost of funding an employee's birth is worth paying for birth control as long as possible. Again, I don't have a problem with them challenging the law. I have a problem with the way they're doing it.

Would you be ok with it if H-L was to decrease employer contribution like other companies have for the smoking thing? The ACA says they cant.