History repeats itself...

[dee]

Yes, because the 'authorities' were aiming rifles at them. Seems if someone doesn't want a weapon pointed at them, they probably shouldn't point at others don't you think?

Not necessarily. It was wrong on both parties and reckless. Imo it was far more reckless to point one at people that are already pointing, but that's beside the point. It has always been a bad idea to point at any type of law enforcement or military personnel and usually involves deadly force being taken.

[racrguy]

Not necessarily. It was wrong on both parties and reckless. Imo it was far more reckless to point one at people that are already pointing, but that's beside the point. It has always been a bad idea to point at any type of law enforcement or military personnel and usually involves deadly force being taken.

While I get what you're saying, and agree with you. Is it not fair that the populace gets to protect themselves with deadly force?

[dee]

While I get what you're saying, and agree with you. Is it not fair that the populace gets to protect themselves with deadly force?

I do think it is fair but don't believe jumping in like this is a intelligent idea. You already had a very volatile situation and doing this only added fuel to the fire.

[LANTIRN]

http://www.thewildlifenews.com/2014/...d-and-grazing/

[racrguy]

I do think it is fair but don't believe jumping in like this is a intelligent idea. You already had a very volatile situation and doing this only added fuel to the fire.

There's nothing smart about getting into a fire fight, but sometimes people have had enough and they throw caution to the wind and let the chips fall where they may. For that guy the point may have been reached.

[helosailor]

These last several posts have been on point.

[YALE]

There's nothing smart about getting into a fire fight, but sometimes people have had enough and they throw caution to the wind and let the chips fall where they may. For that guy the point may have been reached.

Yeah, but Bundy's still wrong.

[dee]

Yeah, but Bundy's still wrong.

I agree. If this about the property here in Texas that people have a deed to then I could understand this type of response. This guy admits to not owning the land or recently paying for the rights to use it yet acts as it's his. That being said I do think the feds went about it the wrong way as well which led to this potential shit storm.

[Forever_frost]

Instead of filing a lien against his property as they were supposed to, they sent in armed agents and choppers and snipers. As far as the guy aiming at the feds, if they are aiming at him, fair game. It's best to see your assassin just in case he misses so that you can return fire. Just because someone has you in their sights and fires first, even if they score what can be a mortal hit, doesn't mean you can kill them before you're gone

[564826]

That guy is an idiot and should be shot on sight. Never point your weapon on something you don't intent to kill. If he is such a billy badass then he should pull the trigger.

[Broncojohnny]

That guy is an idiot and should be shot on sight. Never point your weapon on something you don't intent to kill.

Of course the "snipers" from the government were pointing their guns all over the place. I guess that doesn't matter though, they would never shoot anyone that didn't need it. Oh except for Ruby Ridge, Waco, Kent State and a whole fucking list of other places that you will never hear about because they have lied to cover it up.

[Trip McNeely]

When it's an authoritarian figure it's ok, they have a badge to kill and were just following orders. I get it.

[Forever_frost]

That guy is an idiot and should be shot on sight. Never point your weapon on something you don't intent to kill. If he is such a billy badass then he should pull the trigger.

Do you feel the same about the government agents pointing their rifles at the citizens or is it wrong only if you don't have a federal command to do it?

[Forever_frost]

When it's an authoritarian figure it's ok, they have a badge to kill and were just following orders. I get it.

I'm glad to know that I, in uniform, can put a rifle in his face and he won't do anything to defend himself. That is valuable information.

[564826]

I agree with you that no Government and or federal agency should have complete and total totalitarian control. The people have a right and a lawful duty to defend themselves from a tyrannical entity. That being said that individual is engaging law enforcement in an unwarranted and very aggressive behavior. In my humble opinion he is not representing himself and his cause in a correct manner to the American people. The news outlets and media will chastise him as a lunatic, crazy right winger, conspiracy theory black helicopter tin foil hat believer who is not to be taken seriously. But is now looked at as the aggressor.