Would you do away with ss?

[Forever_frost]

Problem number one is it's unconstitutional. It really doesn't matter if it was sustainable and paying everyone out 200x what they paid in, the federal government has no authority to run it.

[Baba Ganoush]

People live a lot longer, it isn't means tested, and the fund was once in surplus, so Congress rolled it into the general budget, which is actually illegal under the original law creating social security. It basically wasn't designed for the way we use it now.

Exzachry right!

Also it may shock some to know there are websites devoted to helping you game the ss/disability acceptance process. We should've shut it down twenty years ago.

[Ruffdaddy]

So basically it could be fixed and then it would be fine

If labor force participation keeps dropping...no.

[John -- '02 HAWK]

So basically it could be fixed and then it would be fine

if the gov could find the money to put back into it

[Gasser64]

People live a lot longer, it isn't means tested, and the fund was once in surplus, so Congress rolled it into the general budget, which is actually illegal under the original law creating social security. It basically wasn't designed for the way we use it now.

So basically it could be fixed and then it would be fine

[68RR]

Yale, good post! You also have to consider how few people are working now and paying into SS, AND the amout of yearly income that is now taxable. I believe there are either 4-6 states now where more people are collecting assistance than working..
Jyro has me beat by a couple years, but I'm with him in that if you guys want to kill SS, give me back what I paid in and you can have at it. I never minded paying into SS as I knew it was taking care of Grandparents,aunts, uncles and others that went throught the Depression and lost everything and who served in WW2. At the time, I felt that the generations following me would feel the same about taking care of our less fortunate elderly and would continue on the tradition. With the advent of the 401 and other savings venues available today, plus the way the Gov has gone crazy,the outlook of many has changed .

[YALE]

Why is it that ss is so underfunded?

People live a lot longer, it isn't means tested, and the fund was once in surplus, so Congress rolled it into the general budget, which is actually illegal under the original law creating social security. It basically wasn't designed for the way we use it now.

[68RR]

I wish the Gov would re-institute the WPA and CCC..

[TeeShock]

The fucking douche bag dope heads have figured out how to work the system too. They get diagnosed as being bi polar and here come the checks. Can't work due to their dis order. That fund is so abused it is not even funny.

I have an alcoholic in my family that claims bipolar disability (drunk/not drunk) and he still drains my grandparents who actually worked their whole lives. I don't give a fuck if he is mental his dumbass can work a shovel or push a mower.

[lowthreeohz]

Uncle Sam Wentworth?

Bra. Vo.

[Sean88gt]

It's my money and I want it now.

Uncle Sam Wentworth?

[jw33]

It's my money and I want it now.

[Gasser64]

Not true, disability is a separate fund from social security. The interesting part is that it is going to be the first part of it to go. Last I heard, the disability fund will be tits up and have to start cutting benefits in the next three years. The root cause of that is all of these fat ass people having themselves declared disabled and ordering a god damn electric scooter to drive around on.

Couple questions. What makes you think it will be the first to go. Next one. Everyone keeps saying ss will eventually die. But what keeps them from just raising the tax more and more to cover it? They dont seem to have a problem with raising it so far

[kingjason]

Not true, disability is a separate fund from social security. The interesting part is that it is going to be the first part of it to go. Last I heard, the disability fund will be tits up and have to start cutting benefits in the next three years. The root cause of that is all of these fat ass people having themselves declared disabled and ordering a god damn electric scooter to drive around on.

The fucking douche bag dope heads have figured out how to work the system too. They get diagnosed as being bi polar and here come the checks. Can't work due to their dis order. That fund is so abused it is not even funny.

[Broncojohnny]

Why is it that ss is so underfunded? Because people use it when they are young and claim disability. The same goverment workers that investigate it cant do anything to stop it. Cut the fat before cutting the benefits of people who worked years to create this country.

When I had to go to the social security administration to prove that I was a us citizen 12yrs after 9/11 to work for choo choo. I saw people just applying for that stuff left and right they even had a seperate waiting area with 10x the employees needed to answer questions in english and spanish. WTF.

Not true, disability is a separate fund from social security. The interesting part is that it is going to be the first part of it to go. Last I heard, the disability fund will be tits up and have to start cutting benefits in the next three years. The root cause of that is all of these fat ass people having themselves declared disabled and ordering a god damn electric scooter to drive around on.