Would you do away with ss?

[ceyko]

SS to me is another program that may of had the best intentions when started, now it's just a tax in my opinion.

One generation or another is going to pay a lot into it (I know I certainly have paid a ton into it) and not get anything in return.

[Nash B.]

Are they looking at getting more than they put in? If so, it's an entitlement.

Assuming a fixed annual contribution over 45 years, a 50% return on investment is equivalent to about 1.75% per year, a 100% ROI is equivalent to 2.9% per year, and a 200% ROI is equivalent to 4.4% per year. I think even Ruffdaddy might be able to beat that.

[bcoop]

i guess you calling me an idiot but ive told you before my name is josh ive met and talked to several people on this forum already. Who the fuck is justing youre so obsessed with? Is that your ex? You never add anything anyway i think ill just put you on ignore. im sure youll reply but i wont be reading it. So have fun with that thought

Your IP has already been confirmed by a mod, but nice try.

Are they looking at getting more than they put in? If so, it's an entitlement.

It's a loan with a return on interest, not an entitlement.

And Justin is, always has been, and always will be, a fucking moron. Hell, his name may have been Josh this entire time, since he steals other peoples screen names who knows. Regardless of what your license says you're an idiot and a piece of shit.

[Forever_frost]

Is it really an entitlement if the average person is only getting back between 1.5 and 3 times what they contributed over 45 years?

Are they looking at getting more than they put in? If so, it's an entitlement.

[Forever_frost]

It should be phased out over the years, and your SS contributions now get redirected a 401k of sorts. When the money is privatized, more Americans will be better off.

Or they can just leave you to plan your own retirement.

[Gasser64]

Justin is an idiot, always has been. This is no different.

i guess you calling me an idiot but ive told you before my name is josh ive met and talked to several people on this forum already. Who the fuck is justing youre so obsessed with? Is that your ex? You never add anything anyway i think ill just put you on ignore. im sure youll reply but i wont be reading it. So have fun with that thought

Wow. That is quite a hardline stance you have on the subject.

I would hate to hear that your retirement plans crashed and burned. It has been known to happen, even with good plans and lots of money.

Because that next day you will be in line to become another "irresponsible" SS mooching "fuck" and you'd have to listen to some scumbag tell you that life is tough, they don't like paying for it, and you should suffer.

You must be old. Yea generally people take a hardline stance on things that basically have the potential to crush their freedoms. And you just called most of the people in this thread scumbags. Good job

[Nash B.]

Yeah im in favor of all most all entitlements and s like this going away.

Is it really an entitlement if the average person is only getting back between 1.5 and 3 times what they contributed over 45 years?

[Broncojohnny]

Wow. That is quite a hardline stance you have on the subject.

I would hate to hear that your retirement plans crashed and burned. It has been known to happen, even with good plans and lots of money.

Because that next day you will be in line to become another "irresponsible" SS mooching "fuck" and you'd have to listen to some scumbag tell you that life is tough, they don't like paying for it, and you should suffer.

This is true. Some people need it. You would have to slowly transition it to a defined contribution type of program.

[bcoop]

Wow. That is quite a hardline stance you have on the subject.

I would hate to hear that your retirement plans crashed and burned. It has been known to happen, even with good plans and lots of money.

Because that next day you will be in line to become another "irresponsible" SS mooching "fuck" and you'd have to listen to some scumbag tell you that life is tough, they don't like paying for it, and you should suffer.

Justin is an idiot, always has been. This is no different.


That said, end it.

[46Tbird]

Well its going to be pretty tough on people like you when it stops. You better hope thats not before youre dead.

Also the old people crying about it if the money stops... see im a bit of a hater when it comes to that kind of thing and it makes me not even care when I hear that type of stuff. Makes me want to see them suffer, in a way. After all why is it all the young peoples responsibility to pay for irresponsible fucks? Oh but we wont be getting paid like we paid for them. Sorry bout that.

Wow. That is quite a hardline stance you have on the subject.

I would hate to hear that your retirement plans crashed and burned. It has been known to happen, even with good plans and lots of money.

Because that next day you will be in line to become another "irresponsible" SS mooching "fuck" and you'd have to listen to some scumbag tell you that life is tough, they don't like paying for it, and you should suffer.

[Sean88gt]

It will go away because it is going to destroy the purchasing power of the dollar. I mean only in a relative sense, the value will be deflated to a more sustainable amount. The old people will keep getting their $2,000 check every month because they cry like babies if someone mentions it might stop. But that $2,000 isn't going to buy much before long.

What is ironic about that is that the government, much like small town churches, cater to the elderly while shitting on their future. At some point the arguments will transition to "why have you been fucking me while paying dinosaurs?"

[68RR]

TIL There are some old people on this site.

Yep, there is!

[CexMashean]

TIL There are some old people on this site.

[TeeShock]

Id cut my losses with what I've paid in for the past ten years. If it were a step in the right direction.