250,000 Muslims being brought to US Soil? Is this true?

[Maddhattter]

I am going to reword this once more since you seem to have an extremely difficult time understanding.

I'm having no problems understanding what you are saying and asking. You've just yet to ask a question that pertains to what I've said.

Going by your statement, you are of the opinion Christianity is as violent a religion as terrorist groups claiming to be Muslim,

No. I'm not.

and your opinion is based on persecutions which have happened hundreds and thousands of years ago, and you are comparing those examples to modern day Islam.

No, I'm not.

It's an old worn out excuse that has been around for years for those who have only observed religion from afar.

Which is irrelevant because that's not what I've done. Nor have I only observed religion from afar. I was a christian for longer than I've been an atheist.

I am not trying to hammer any belief into you, but if you are going to try and use examples then for the love of Christ Almighty, use them from current affairs to try and make your Muslim/Christian kill/death ratio comparison?

I've made no claims about the kill:death ratio of any groups.

Can you do that? If not, your point is invalid.

This is all no more relevant than the first time you asked. So, can we be done with the strawmen? Is it possible to address what I've actually said?

[SS Junk]

And this statement is still as irrelevant as it was the first time you said it.

I am going to reword this once more since you seem to have an extremely difficult time understanding.
Going by your statement, you are of the opinion Christianity is as violent a religion as terrorist groups claiming to be Muslim, and your opinion is based on persecutions which have happened hundreds and thousands of years ago, and you are comparing those examples to modern day Islam. It's an old worn out excuse that has been around for years for those who have only observed religion from afar.
I am not trying to hammer any belief into you, but if you are going to try and use examples then for the love of Christ Almighty, use them from current affairs to try and make your Muslim/Christian kill/death ratio comparison? Can you do that? If not, your point is invalid.

[The King]

No need. I already have.

No, you have not, or will you ever be successful at doing so.

[Maddhattter]

Google is the ultimate go-to source for many of these "experts". One does not even need to look beyond this board to find many, often comical, examples.

Speaking of such, perhaps 'hatter or other board experts will get back to googling the Bible again and get us some quotes therefrom regarding Christianity to support the "off the top of his head" statement below.

No need. I already have.

To save us both time, you can refer to this thread where an explanation has been made and all the hand-waving has already been done for you.

Or, as it is in this case, by you.

[Maddhattter]

That's where I figured you were going.

So, you knew that I was going to use the bible as a foundation for what christianity supports?! That's amazing considering that's what I've done in the past, and in the thread that I linked earlier. So, unless you want to claim that your church doesn't use the bible as the source and foundation of its teachings, it should be no surprise that I did exactly that.

Those who throw these blanket statements about Christianity always want to compare what happened hundreds and thousands of years ago with today's Islam because that's all you have.

False. Examples were given in this thread, like I said they were, of events that have occurred within the last century and earlier. You choosing to ignore that doesn't change anything.

I will then reword my statement in telling you, I have yet to be instructed by any modern pastor to get my beheading kit ready and kill all of those who do not believe in Jesus Christ. However, if that does happen, I'll make sure to alert those Christian sleeper cells that are on the ready to wreak havoc amongst sinners...

And this statement is still as irrelevant as it was the first time you said it.

Have you seen where a Houston mayor is now issuing subpoenas to Christian pastors regarding their sermons on gays? Weird how only Christianity is being targeted on this subject.

I have seen that. I agree that it's wrong. If the preachers are politicing from the pulpit, the state & the IRS should be getting involved, not the local city government. It's outside of the city's jurisdiction.

I also find it astoundingly interesting that those who want nothing to do with Christianity or religion are always the experts and have it all figured out.

That's only because the majority of atheists report that they were believers of their various local religions until they started to actually studying it. If most believers would take the time to actually study their religions, instead of cherry picking the parts they like, I'm sure that all the evidence would support that believers are more knowledgeable about their religions than non-believers instead of the inverse.

just give up. You cant make a point to people like that cause their hatred is just too strong. Ironically theyll call you a bigot because you oppose the ideals of some other religious organization.

I've not only called you a bigot, I've demonstrated your bigotry. Unfortunately for you, you can't demonstrate my hatred because it doesn't exist.

So where is my bigotry towards budhism then? Man I lost it! Ill have to find that and soon!! Otherwise madhater wont have a point

Not only is this irrelevant, it's not required. Aside from me calling you a bigot, no other point I've made in this thread hinges on that fact. Not only did I call you a bigot, but you agreed that by the very definition of bigot, you are one and you're proud of it. So, even if anything in my arguments relied on your bigotry, there would still be no issue. Not that I would expect you to understand that. You can't even be bothered to comprehend what I'm actually posting.

Geez. You two could conquer Oz with the army of strawmen you're building.

[The King]

That's where I figured you were going. Those who throw these blanket statements about Christianity always want to compare what happened hundreds and thousands of years ago with today's Islam because that's all you have. I will then reword my statement in telling you, I have yet to be instructed by any modern pastor to get my beheading kit ready and kill all of those who do not believe in Jesus Christ. However, if that does happen, I'll make sure to alert those Christian sleeper cells that are on the ready to wreak havoc amongst sinners...
Have you seen where a Houston mayor is now issuing subpoenas to Christian pastors regarding their sermons on gays? Weird how only Christianity is being targeted on this subject. I also find it astoundingly interesting that those who want nothing to do with Christianity or religion are always the experts and have it all figured out.

Google is the ultimate go-to source for many of these "experts". One does not even need to look beyond this board to find many, often comical, examples.

Speaking of such, perhaps 'hatter or other board experts will get back to googling the Bible again and get us some quotes therefrom regarding Christianity to support the "off the top of his head" statement below.

However, if you've not been instructed to kill non-believers you've not taken your orders from the bible.

[Gasser64]

You forgot Obama.

I have that idiot on ignore but since you quoted i could see it. Surely he isn't serious... the obama award pretty much nullifies the prize

That's where I figured you were going. Those who throw these blanket statements about Christianity always want to compare what happened hundreds and thousands of years ago with today's Islam because that's all you have. I will then reword my statement in telling you, I have yet to be instructed by any modern pastor to get my beheading kit ready and kill all of those who do not believe in Jesus Christ. However, if that does happen, I'll make sure to alert those Christian sleeper cells that are on the ready to wreak havoc amongst sinners...
Have you seen where a Houston mayor is now issuing subpoenas to Christian pastors regarding their sermons on gays? Weird how only Christianity is being targeted on this subject. I also find it astoundingly interesting that those who want nothing to do with Christianity or religion are always the experts and have it all figured out.

just give up. You cant make a point to people like that cause their hatred is just too strong. Ironically theyll call you a bigot because you oppose the ideals of some other religious organization. So where is my bigotry towards budhism then? Man I lost it! Ill have to find that and soon!! Otherwise madhater wont have a point

[jdgregory84]

Don't forget guys. I'm the asshole, because I support Crossfit.

[SS Junk]

Anecdote != evidence. However, if you've not been instructed to kill non-believers you've not taken your orders from the bible.

That's where I figured you were going. Those who throw these blanket statements about Christianity always want to compare what happened hundreds and thousands of years ago with today's Islam because that's all you have. I will then reword my statement in telling you, I have yet to be instructed by any modern pastor to get my beheading kit ready and kill all of those who do not believe in Jesus Christ. However, if that does happen, I'll make sure to alert those Christian sleeper cells that are on the ready to wreak havoc amongst sinners...
Have you seen where a Houston mayor is now issuing subpoenas to Christian pastors regarding their sermons on gays? Weird how only Christianity is being targeted on this subject. I also find it astoundingly interesting that those who want nothing to do with Christianity or religion are always the experts and have it all figured out.

[YALE]

If we could harness the force of arguments on this board, fusion would be pointless.

[Maddhattter]

You stated "Islam is no more "kill anyone who disagrees" than christianity is."

I did.

I am a Christian and have been all my life. I have never had the urge nor have I been instructed to kill non-believers.

Anecdote != evidence. However, if you've not been instructed to kill non-believers you've not taken your orders from the bible.

To save us both time, you can refer to this thread where an explanation has been made and all the hand-waving has already been done for you.

Have you seen groups of Christians forming and executing those in the name of Jesus Christ? Exactly what terrible things is it Christians do in the name of their religion?

There are examples of this in this thread. No need for me to repeat others.

I'd like to know what it is I am doing that is the same as killing a non-believer?

Since your post was nothing more than a reworded version of your initial post, I'm just going to give you a reworded version of my response...

I never made any of these claims except the first, nor are they relevant to the statement that you quoted. There are christians that do terrible things in the name of their religion, and there are muslims who do terrible things in the name of their religion. There are christians who do great things in the name of their religion, and there are muslims who do great things in the name of their religion. That doesn't change what the religion itself actually states/supports.

[SS Junk]

I never made this claim, nor is it relevant to the statement that you quoted.

You stated "Islam is no more "kill anyone who disagrees" than christianity is." I am a Christian and have been all my life. I have never had the urge nor have I been instructed to kill non-believers. Have you seen groups of Christians forming and executing those in the name of Jesus Christ? Exactly what terrible things is it Christians do in the name of their religion? I'd like to know what it is I am doing that is the same as killing a non-believer?

[racrguy]

If you think its random and cant see why i would post it, then i was right i really dont have much reason to converse with you. That is becoming more and more clear. You denounced that he was a warlord saying there was no proof... ugh. As usual arguing with a libbie is like arguing with a 5 yr old. But moving on... in other words you didnt really watch it, and you dont believe that uploaders verified source, which is of course the book. Gotcha. You are like 19 or 20 right? I can tell by your replies

[Nash B.]

5 of the last 12 Nobel Peace Prize winners are Muslim. Hide yo kids, hide yo wife, they be beheadin' errrybody though!

You forgot Obama.

[Maddhattter]

If you think its random and cant see why i would post it, then i was right i really dont have much reason to converse with you.

Another straw-man here. I never said it was random. The video is just too stupid to be taken seriously. So, based on the video and it's contents, I'm assuming you're just being a troll.

You denounced that he was a warlord saying there was no proof... ugh.

Yep. The only actual information we have on him is the Quran, and other documents that came decades after his supposed death. Much like Jesus, there's no contemporary evidence. However, if we're to assume the documentation is accurate, leading people to reclaim land & property stolen from them does not make one a warlord. Neither does some guy in a video calling him one.

As usual arguing with a libbie is like arguing with a 5 yr old.

I'm not going to apologize about not pretending that someone exists when there is no evidence that they did.

But moving on... in other words you didnt really watch it, and you dont believe that uploaders verified source, which is of course the book. Gotcha. You are like 19 or 20 right? I can tell by your replies

Oh, I watched the video. At best, it illustrates that there are contradictions in the quran. So, what? There are numerous instances of contradictions in the bible. Muslims will go through the same type of verbal and mental gymnastics that christians will to try and hand-waive the contradictions away. Also, the quran states that the people would remove his aorta if he were to be found lying, not that god would and saying that I can feel a poison stabbing into my heart is not the same as being stabbed in the heard. Just because a guy in a YouTube says something, doesn't make it true. At this point, I'm just going to continue to assume you're trolling because I'd rather not assume you're just that stupid until you demonstrate it.