250,000 Muslims being brought to US Soil? Is this true?

[SS Junk]

There are also the Soweto bombings in 2002.

There is also the Christian group Army of God. They have bombed abortion clinics and gay bars, and one of their members was the guy that bombed the Olympics in 1996.

Alright. I'll take your word for it on the Balkan incident, and see the above was caused by some right-winged extremists. Assuming they did this in the name of Jesus Christ, that's a few instances in the last, what... 20 years? Does that fit hattter's "Islam is no more "kill anyone who disagrees" than christianity is..." agenda?

You just went full retard, I see.

A dude, who isn't even in this debacle is stating a far better case than the, mindless legion of blow-hard comments you've made. I now retire you from this debate. Good day, sir.

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There is also the Christian group Army of God. They have bombed abortion clinics and gay bars, and one of their members was the guy that bombed the Olympics in 1996.

[Maddhattter]

Duck, dodge, weave is all I read. Be careful. It is quite possible one of these days we Christians who do terrible things will done do terribler things in the name of our religion. Watch out! I can just see a Christian farting in your general direction and you jumping up and down shaking your finger screaming "SEE! SEE!"

You just went full retard, I see.

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There are also the Soweto bombings in 2002.

[SS Junk]

You're not focusing on any claim I've made because that question is not relevant to any claim I've made.

Duck, dodge, weave is all I read. Be careful. It is quite possible one of these days we Christians who do terrible things will done do terribler things in the name of our religion. Watch out! I can just see a Christian farting in your general direction and you jumping up and down shaking your finger screaming "SEE! SEE!"

Just a little Balkan dustup. It might've been a few years more than 15, but it was in very recent history.

I'll have to read up on that.

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Within your multiquote/sentencing diatribe, I am only focusing on one of your claims, to which, you have yet to prove to be accurate.

Tell me more.

Just a little Balkan dustup. It might've been a few years more than 15, but it was in very recent history.

[Maddhattter]

I am only focusing on one of your claims, to which, you have yet to prove to be accurate.

You're not focusing on any claim I've made because that question is not relevant to any claim I've made.

[SS Junk]

So, we're not actually going to address anything I've actually said/posted. Got it.

Within your multiquote/sentencing diatribe, I am only focusing on one of your claims, to which, you have yet to prove to be accurate.

Welcome to Sarajevo.

Tell me more.

[Maddhattter]

In Jr. High my dad became a born again Christian after spending most of his time fucking anything that would hold still long enough and rarely ever being home. My mom was even worse off and has been married 8 or 9 times last I heard. I haven't seen her since I was 5 except twice. So in High School and College I embarked on this long religious quest to figure out what it was all about. I read EVERY religious book I could get my hands on. I've read the Tao, Bible, Koran (Quran), the Time Life series on religion etc. I sure don't have it all figured out, but there are things I see that make me leery of all religions.

Irrelevant.

Christians denominations always saying with other Christian denominations are going to hell or doing it wrong...... really? Catholicism, Baptists, Lutherans, First Christians, Disciples of Christ.... not really that different. Mormons and Jehovah's witnesses (yep been to those churches too), are different but not completely unique. So which one is right, because clearly everyone else is wrong. And if God is so benevolent and forgiving like I read in the Bible why would he give a crap which denomination you belonged too? Oh I went to a non denominational church too. Same thing.

All religions are mutually exclusive. This is no surprise to anyone. What's your point?

So atheists or non-believers. Well honestly this thread is pretty adequate proof most of them are just anti-Christian. A lot of them bend over backwards to kiss ass to Muslims but will do anything in their power to bring down Christians.

Then you've not read this thread. I'm not anti-christian, nor am I anti-muslim, anti-buddhist, anti-scientologist, etc. I'm pro-reality. If I'm "anti" anything, it would be anti-ignorance. Muslims, as a group, are no better or worse people than any other group of people. I've said this before, in this "anti-christian" thread... "There are christians that do terrible things in the name of their religion, and there are muslims who do terrible things in the name of their religion. There are christians who do great things in the name of their religion, and there are muslims who do great things in the name of their religion. That doesn't change what the religion itself actually states/supports." I'm not sure how that translates into "anti" anyone.

If they were really indifferent as they claim they wouldn't have time to attack either Christians, Jews, Muslims or Buddhists, or the Hindu?

When it's relevant, they do. However, in America, 90% of the stupid religious bullshit that people have to deal with are from christians primarily because the majority religion in America is christianity.

Ever see an atheist go off on a Hindu or Buddhist? I sure haven't.

Your ignorance is not an argument. I have attacked their beliefs the same as I do to anyone else. The only difference is relevance.

But if you mention God as in the Judeo/Christian God or Jesus they blow a fucking gasket. Why is that?

Can you demonstrate this happening with any regularity? Note that, by your own conditions, the atheist must be "blowing a gasket" because of the sheer mention of the christian god or Jesus.

Are you guys really atheists?

Yes.

Or maybe you are closet Muslims or Satan worshippers both of which are also devout anti-Judeo/Christians just like you.

There's no evidence to either claim in this sentence.

Honestly, I see little difference when that much vehemence is involved.

Based on your demonstrated capacity for critical thinking, this is not surprising.

Considering, up to this point, you've managed to get nothing right and the rest of your post follows suit, I'm not even going to bother doing anything other than asking for actual evidence to support any of that rambling. Can you provide any support for any of the steaming pile you've left in this thread?

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Can you name any one incident in the last 15 years where a group claiming to be Christians has indulged in terrorist action which has claimed lives in the name of Jesus Christ?

Welcome to Sarajevo.

[Maddhattter]

Can you name any one incident in the last 15 years where a group claiming to be Christians has indulged in terrorist action which has claimed lives in the name of Jesus Christ?

So, we're not actually going to address anything I've actually said/posted. Got it.

[racrguy]

So atheists or non-believers. Well honestly this thread is pretty adequate proof most of them are just anti-Christian. A lot of them bend over backwards to kiss ass to Muslims but will do anything in their power to bring down Christians. If they were really indifferent as they claim they wouldn't have time to attack either Christians, Jews, Muslims or Buddhists, or the Hindu? Ever see an atheist go off on a Hindu or Buddhist? I sure haven't. But if you mention God as in the Judeo/Christian God or Jesus they blow a fucking gasket. Why is that? Are you guys really atheists? Or maybe you are closet Muslims or Satan worshippers both of which are also devout anti-Judeo/Christians just like you. Honestly, I see little difference when that much vehemence is involved.

You trod any one of those people in front of me and I'll attack their unreasonable beliefs too. This has been explained to you before, yet you keep bringing it up. Christianity is the dominate religion here in the US, so it stands to reason that you'd see atheists bashing christianity more than any of the other religions.

I'm not even going to address the rest of that hogwash you posted. Run along, little one, and find me a jew, muslim, buddhist, pagan, wiccan, satanist, or any other gnostic person and I'll have the conversation with them and evaluate their claims and attack them or leave them be just as I do christianity.

Also: Islam isn't an issue in this country, christianity is. Muslims aren't trying to get laws passed that mirror their holy text, muslims aren't trying to teach their particular version of creation in schools. When they do, expect the same kind of vitriol passed their way.

[AnthonyS]

In Jr. High my dad became a born again Christian after spending most of his time fucking anything that would hold still long enough and rarely ever being home. My mom was even worse off and has been married 8 or 9 times last I heard. I haven't seen her since I was 5 except twice. So in High School and College I embarked on this long religious quest to figure out what it was all about. I read EVERY religious book I could get my hands on. I've read the Tao, Bible, Koran (Quran), the Time Life series on religion etc. I sure don't have it all figured out, but there are things I see that make me leery of all religions.

Christians denominations always saying with other Christian denominations are going to hell or doing it wrong...... really? Catholicism, Baptists, Lutherans, First Christians, Disciples of Christ.... not really that different. Mormons and Jehovah's witnesses (yep been to those churches too), are different but not completely unique. So which one is right, because clearly everyone else is wrong. And if God is so benevolent and forgiving like I read in the Bible why would he give a crap which denomination you belonged too? Oh I went to a non denominational church too. Same thing.

So atheists or non-believers. Well honestly this thread is pretty adequate proof most of them are just anti-Christian. A lot of them bend over backwards to kiss ass to Muslims but will do anything in their power to bring down Christians. If they were really indifferent as they claim they wouldn't have time to attack either Christians, Jews, Muslims or Buddhists, or the Hindu? Ever see an atheist go off on a Hindu or Buddhist? I sure haven't. But if you mention God as in the Judeo/Christian God or Jesus they blow a fucking gasket. Why is that? Are you guys really atheists? Or maybe you are closet Muslims or Satan worshippers both of which are also devout anti-Judeo/Christians just like you. Honestly, I see little difference when that much vehemence is involved.

Now I can only go by what I've observed in my life in regards to terrorism. Remember TWA; you know Trans World Airlines? Did you ever see some hispanic Catholics or Indian Hindi guys, or a group of white Christians or redneck Baptists hijacking their planes and killing people? Nope it was the Muslims that put them out of business. Okay let's talk about beheadings, yep I've seen Muslims, some African tribes (mostly Muslim) and some Phillipino tribesmen (not Muslim, but possibly Muslim since it is the fastest growing religion in the Far East) all do that. What about flying airplanes into buildings? Never seen brothers from East Dallas that go to a Baptist church do that, have you? Ever see any religion other than a Muslim go psycho at an Army base on US soil and start killing random folks? How about all the car bombings all over Mid East or Europe? Ever see the Christians do that to get back at the Muslims? Nope, it's always Muslims trying to blow up as many infidels as they can and if they kill a few thousand Muslims in the process too, no problem it's "jihad." Ever see a Jewish, Christian, Buddhist, Hindi, Jedi (yes it's a religion in England now), or any other religious leader issue a death "fatwah" over a fucking cartoon? Nope, always some irate Muslim.

So why are the Muslims killing ever mother fucker on Earth they can? It's simple. According to them you have 3 choices. Love Allah, be Allah's slave or be dead. You'll notice that Allah is the name of their God which is quite different from the name of the Judeo Christian God, Yahweh or Jehovah. King James had it removed from the Bible after the Crusades to help spread the lie that they are the same God. They are not. The Muslims argue that Allah is the real God of Abraham while the Judeo/Christians (most who don't have a fucking clue because they believe the "one God" like) think Jehovah or Yahweh is the God of Abraham. Well the Muslims are mandated by their religion to kill or enslave everyone that believes in this Yahweh or Jehovah God. It's why they scream "Allah hu Akabar" before they blow up random people. They aren't saying "God is great" like the lying press tells you. They are saying "Allah is the greatest God" implying that Jehovah / Yahweh is lower on the totem pole. It's a lot like Eagle vs. Cowboys fans but on a global scale up to and involving nuclear weapons. I'm not dumb enough to think the Eagles are the Cowboys, so why is the average person dumb enough to accept that Allah and Yahweh / Jehovah are the same?

So why is Muslims get a free pass on their shitty behavior in the name of their religion and everyone else has to suffer? Just in case you morons haven't figured it out all that awful shit Christians did in the Crusades was a direct response to Islam and Muslims. Eye for an eye mother fuckers. I can't blame the Christians for that. They've paid for it more than 10fold and still pay. You atheist turn the blind eye when Christian genocide is a real fact in all of Africa and the Middle East. You don't give a shit. But if a Christian in Europe was some Muslim to stop beating his wife in public, you start crying about the Crusades. Sounds like an argument Satan might use when blaming his dad Yahweh for his shitty life.....

If anything, I'd classify myself as Jedi knight religiously or a really really bad Christian. See I think there is a benevolent forgiving God out there who wants the best for all of us. I just don't think I will get to know him in any church I've ever seen.

What I do know though is that Muslims are the bane of freedom, free religion, independence, separation of church and state, and everything the founding fathers put in the Bill of Rights. They and the atheists are succeeding in undoing most everything in the Bill of Rights based on "security" and "protecting" the public. Well fuck them. Fuck the whole lot of you.

Whether or not anyone wants to be honest about it and acknowledge it we are all mired in a religious war of epic proportions. As Muslims settle in Europe and the US and ask us to respect their "laws and culture" they are requiring us to recognize their religion. Well the Constitution and Bill of Rights says I don't have to, and I will not. I know all about Islam and Muslims. No amount of bullshit spoken by Christians, Liberals, the United Nations or "atheists" are going to change the facts. Dear atheists, pick your Islamic future, slavery or death. That's what you are asking Christians to do, so why are you so different?

Go on in complete ignorance to the world wide raging religious war if you like. I see it for what it is. I don't give a fuck how many of those shitheads kill each other on either side. However the second they invade my land and start trying to kill my friends and family I'm going to treat them like fucking roaches. If I were President, my decree would be simple. You treat my citizens badly, I treat you like fucking Nazi's in WWII. End of story. You behead my citizens, I firebomb your entire fucking country. Fuck them.

Atheists, get a new game. You wanna impress me. Shut up, OR ATTACK ALL religions with equal vehemence.

As for me I won't be in church this Sunday either. I'm sick of listening to "Christian" preachers trying to explain the difference between a good Muslim and a bad one. I know which ones the good ones. They are the ones blowing shit up and beheading people in the name of Allah. The bad ones are the ones not doing that. Don't believe me, ask an Imam?

Fuck the moon God and his rock. In case you didn't know Muhamad is the dude that decided the rock representing the moon God, Allah, was better than all the other rocks representing other Gods. The funny thing is that the rock is basalt and isn't actually from the moon. It's just that Muhamad was too damn stupid to know volcanic rock when he saw it.

And if you think I'm gonna worship your rock I have news for you... "You've got another thing comin."

[SS Junk]

From this point on, if you can manage to respond to what I've said, instead of making shit up, I'll be glad to continue this conversation. However, if you're going to continue making things up and claiming that I said them, there's no conversation to be had.

Can you name any one incident in the last 15 years where a group claiming to be Christians has indulged in terrorist action which has claimed lives in the name of Jesus Christ?

[The King]

Where did all the hoopla about Muslims run off to?