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  • YALE
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    Originally posted by Forever_frost View Post
    Alluded to it but it was never put into the law and so, it doesn't exist. The freedom of religion was to prevent a Church of England from the federal government but it didn't prohibit the states from doing it. Or counties. There was to be no freedom FROM religion as you can't keep an idea from someone, it's impossible.
    It's in the first amendment. "Congress shall make no law regarding the establishment of religion."

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  • BradM
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    Originally posted by Broncojohnny View Post
    No, the way in which the court justified its decision is taking away freedom. Scalia makes it pretty plain as to why. Maybe you didn't read it or maybe you really are only qualified to work at a gym, I don't know and really don't care to be honest.
    Lol!

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  • Broncojohnny
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    Originally posted by jdgregory84 View Post
    So giving more people the freedom to marry another consenting adult is taking away freedom?

    If government made it a legally binding contract, would you say that it stole the sanctity of marriage? Therefore taking away the defense of "it'll ruin the sanctity of marriage"? Or are you just butt-hurt that you just lost a bit of say in what somebody can or can't do?
    No, the way in which the court justified its decision is taking away freedom. Scalia makes it pretty plain as to why. Maybe you didn't read it or maybe you really are only qualified to work at a gym, I don't know and really don't care to be honest.

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  • jdgregory84
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    Originally posted by Broncojohnny View Post
    Marriage is a legally binding contract because government made it so. Was it a legally binding contract two thousand years ago?

    Government created this entire problem. And now I have to laugh at people who think government has done something by "solving" a problem it created to begin with. In reality what they have done is yet again chipped away at the most important thing we have in this country which is freedom.
    So giving more people the freedom to marry another consenting adult is taking away freedom?

    If government made it a legally binding contract, would you say that it stole the sanctity of marriage? Therefore taking away the defense of "it'll ruin the sanctity of marriage"? Or are you just butt-hurt that you just lost a bit of say in what somebody can or can't do?

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  • Broncojohnny
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    Originally posted by jdgregory84 View Post
    So you're just giving your own bigoted opinion, but do acknowledge that marriage is a legally binding contract and not a religiously binding contract?
    Marriage is a legally binding contract because government made it so. Was it a legally binding contract two thousand years ago?

    Government created this entire problem. And now I have to laugh at people who think government has done something by "solving" a problem it created to begin with. In reality what they have done is yet again chipped away at the most important thing we have in this country which is freedom.

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  • Moose242
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    Originally posted by Forever_frost View Post
    Alluded to it but it was never put into the law and so, it doesn't exist. The freedom of religion was to prevent a Church of England from the federal government but it didn't prohibit the states from doing it. Or counties. There was to be no freedom FROM religion as you can't keep an idea from someone, it's impossible.
    Oh ok, the founding fathers totally left the door open for a nice old fashioned theocracy.

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  • 1carcrazyguy
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    "The Obama White House".....

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  • Forever_frost
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    Originally posted by DOHCTR View Post
    Mutual defense pact you dolt.


    And frost, seperation of church and state is a tongue and cheek expression used to describe the unique layout of our governmental blueprint, albeit numerous founding fathers including Thomas Jeffersen alluded to it. You know this.
    Alluded to it but it was never put into the law and so, it doesn't exist. The freedom of religion was to prevent a Church of England from the federal government but it didn't prohibit the states from doing it. Or counties. There was to be no freedom FROM religion as you can't keep an idea from someone, it's impossible.

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  • dcs13
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    Originally posted by BradM View Post
    It's time to capitalize! Buy some old church and have a gay wedding chapel.
    Supply and demand. The heart of capitalism. Good idea btw

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  • BradM
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    It's time to capitalize! Buy some old church and have a gay wedding chapel.

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  • Moose242
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    Originally posted by Mongoose View Post
    Russia invading the Baltic States = Not OUR problem. They have invaded them what now 5 or was it 6 times in the last 500 years? I think that only proves Russia cant maintain control of anything it invades.

    on Isis getting a nuke:

    I`m not saying that they couldn't get one. It`s highly improbable that they will. If they did, they don't have the resources to bring it to the US and detonate it. There is a reason why no terrorist organization has yet to acquire a nuke in the last 40 some odd years all the fringe groups have been saying they`ll get one, and why none ever will. It`s called a significant amount of unlimited money, an organizational structure to support it ( and keep everyone quiet enough about it ) , and a stable supporting country to enable it. No terror organisation has managed to master all 3 of those yet. Isis`s chances don't look promising either.

    In 2025: Putin will be long gone, Russia will just be Russia, and some other splinter jihadist group will fill the void once Isis implodes that we`ll bomb the hell out of. However, we`ll be another liberal socialist country that just elected and other Democrat in the White House.
    Mutual defense pact you dolt.


    And frost, seperation of church and state is a tongue and cheek expression used to describe the unique layout of our governmental blueprint, albeit numerous founding fathers including Thomas Jeffersen alluded to it. You know this.

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  • Forever_frost
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    Originally posted by DOHCTR View Post
    If only church and state were, I dunno, seperate.

    Where may I find this separation mentioned?

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  • Forever_frost
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    Originally posted by sc281 View Post
    Hopefully this will take some of the wind out of the Evangelical Right so we can actually talk about things like economics and good governance instead of why Sean can't marry Denny.
    Since states must recognize a license issued by another state, contrary to state A's law and constitution, does that mean that NYC must recognize Arizona's constitutional carry?

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  • jdgregory84
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    Originally posted by GhostTX View Post
    Nice, I'm the bigot because you're intolerant of my beliefs?
    Your belief that marriage is solely a christian act is wrong. I'm not intolerant. You're just flatout wrong. If you told me that your belief is that water is made of sand and I say you're wrong...I'm not being intolerant...it's you being wrong.

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  • jdgregory84
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    Originally posted by GhostTX View Post
    One would think. But how many bakers, florists and pizza makers have gotten the government shake down for their religious beliefs?
    That bakery had a single picketer show up. They closed shop bc the woman who did all the baking decided to close it. They weren't sued or forced to shut the place down. Good god you christian soldiers are some guilt hungry sissies.

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