Obama on TV right now assuring the USA is safe this weekend

[CWO]

an hour long, but worth it

http://www.c-span.org/video/?401616-1/representative-michael-mccaul-state-homeland-security-address

[helosailor]

I wonder how many people know we actually have target packages for taking out all government locations.

Shhhh!

[Z06killinsbf]

I wonder how many people know we actually have target packages for taking out all government locations.

[helosailor]

Yeah, and any officers above you.. Pretty clear cut. Of course, under he UCMJ you still have an out (and obligation) to disobey unlawful orders.

I would say that when it mentions 'all enemies, foreign and domestic', it is referring to enemies of the United States, not necessarily 'violators' of the constitution. As an example, ISIS terrorists that may be US Citizens, like the San Bernardino shooter.

Also note that officers have a different oath, there is no mention of the president or following orders. That and National Guard enlisted soldiers add their state's governor in after the president and officers.

Yep!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United...Oath_of_Office

[BP]

Also note that officers have a different oath, there is no mention of the president or following orders. That and National Guard enlisted soldiers add their state's governor in after the president and officers.

[Chili]

There is a little more to that oath. The president is still in charge.

Yeah, and any officers above you.. Pretty clear cut. Of course, under he UCMJ you still have an out (and obligation) to disobey unlawful orders.

I would say that when it mentions 'all enemies, foreign and domestic', it is referring to enemies of the United States, not necessarily 'violators' of the constitution. As an example, ISIS terrorists that may be US Citizens, like the San Bernardino shooter.

[helosailor]

There is a little more to that oath. The president is still in charge.

Yep, every word does apply.

[BP]

I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God." (Title 10, US Code; Act of 5 May 1960 replacing the wording first adopted in 1789, with amendment effective 5 October 1962).

There is a little more to that oath. The president is still in charge.

[bcoop]

Maybe we just need to replace Denny's keyboard, and everything else will go away.

[bubbaearl]

maybe we need to send buses through trailer parks this time.

[Forever_frost]

Right but we don't start it. Unless you really want what you're asking for. Do you want to live under a military dictatorship?

[Forever_frost]

I hate when I get asked that same question.

"Why aren't you taking Washington back? You took an oath!"

Right, I did. I will protect and defend the constitution but it's not the military's job to remove a tyrannous government, that's the people's job. It's our job not to be in the way and to minimize casualties.

[564826]

Are you aware of what you're asking? A military takeover of the country, martial law and full suspension of your constitutional rights. All of them. No trial by jury, no right to remain silent, no search warrants.

Do you REALLY want that?

Yeah.. But but it seems so cool and easy in the movies.

[Forever_frost]

Right, so those who took the oath, and have the perfect means, are cleared. Makes total sense. Hey lets all just pass it around like a hot potato!

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for holding politicians to their oath as well. The way they handled the higher ups in the french revolution sounds like an excellent idea to me.

Are you aware of what you're asking? A military takeover of the country, martial law and full suspension of your constitutional rights. All of them. No trial by jury, no right to remain silent, no search warrants.

Do you REALLY want that?

[4bangen]

This forum has gone to shit!

well... bye