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  • #46
    I don't think this is who Lantirn described by any stretch of even your imagination. This man was a paranoid schizophrenic and drug abuser. Not an over zealous patriot.

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    • #47
      Here is an interview of Ammon Bundy. He is calm and well spoken. I like how he puts Megan on the spot and she either doesn't have an answer, or refuses to play along because it doesn't fit her narrative of making him look bad.. Since her ambush of Trump in the first debate, I'm beginning to question her allegiance.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by LANTIRN View Post
        SBFordtech, that is all well and good to complain about, but when it comes to the complaints these ranchers talk about in public against the BLM, 90% of it seems to revolve around permits and grazing rights on public land.
        Harney county was the most prosperous county in Oregon in 1980 in terms of gross income. Their are less than half the amount of ranchers their now and 60% of the county is either a federal employee or on government assistance. That sounds like many of America's urban and inner city areas that the Feds have finger fucked for decades.

        I don't think, yet, that I agree with the tactics being used but can't argue with the rancher's and property owner's grievances. Therein lies my issue. It is not the residents of Harney county that are taking a stand. It is "outsiders" that have come in and decided to speak for the people of Harney county. That being said, 60% of them don't want to bite the hand that feeds them. I truly hoped the locals would have been a little more welcoming to the "help" and led the "charge" themselves. This isn't Bundy's hill to stick his flag in.

        There is a long list of abuses by the BLM all over the country not to mention the abuses of any of the other 72 armed agencies of the Government listed above.

        This is going to end with the people in the Wildlife Refuge office dead or in jail. Until the people of Harney county shift more support to their new found "friends" their actions won't garner the support needed to pressure the Feds for a reasonable solution. By reasonable i mean giving power back to the states, counties, and people.

        Again, I'm not on board with the tactics. These people are western ranchers not diplomats. This may be our Boston Tea Party and turning point. It most likely ain't.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by line-em-up View Post
          Here is an interview of Ammon Bundy. He is calm and well spoken. I like how he puts Megan on the spot and she either doesn't have an answer, or refuses to play along because it doesn't fit her narrative of making him look bad.. Since her ambush of Trump in the first debate, I'm beginning to question her allegiance.

          http://video.foxnews.com/v/468551490...#sp=show-clips
          Fox News is just a culpable as MSNBC and CNN of spreading misinformation, half truths, and protecting the establishment. There are no journalist left on cable television.

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          • #50
            Interesting read from a judge in Alaska.



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            • #51
              Originally posted by SBFORDTECH View Post
              Interesting read from a judge in Alaska.



              http://annavonreitz.com/openlettertosheriffward.pdf

              I hope you are not basing all your views on this subject on people like "judge anna" she is not an elected or appointed "judge" of alaska or any where else...

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              • #52
                Originally posted by broke again View Post
                I hope you are not basing all your views on this subject on people like "judge anna" she is not an elected or appointed "judge" of alaska or any where else...
                Everyday I am asked, "Are you a 'real' judge?" Judge Anna von Reitz has eloquently answered this question for her own constituents. I share her answer and re-post it here. Thank you, Anna.
                -- Cindy Kay Currier

                Alaska State Superior Court Judge, Anna von Reitz – Judge of the actual Alaska State, one of the Several States of the Continental United States.

                On Apr 28, 2015, at 7:02 PM, Anna von Reitz <avannavon@gmail.com> wrote:

                To answer that question and give you the fair full depth of it, you have to learn a lot of history and learn it right now. I am sick and tired of having people say I am not a judge and asking me in what sense I am a judge and coming up with all these silly suppositions and accusations, so I am going to answer you and then I am going to post this letter and let everyone else read it to their heart’s delight.

                Please bear in mind that if you feel stupid or overwhelmed at the end, that’s normal, and we all go through that in the process of waking up. Just realize that you were intentionally defrauded and kept uninformed, so it isn’t your fault that you never knew any of this. You simply weren’t told. So let’s begin.

                From the founding of this country onward the jurisdiction over the land was split from the jurisdiction over the sea.

                The Continental United States — the actual geographically defined states with physical borders, etc.,– were given jurisdiction over the land, and their Citizens known as American State Citizens are the ones protected by The Constitution for the united States of America and vested with all powers of the civil government on the land.

                The Federal United States was created (and limited) by The Constitution for the united States of America and given jurisdiction over the international jurisdiction of the sea. Circa 1868, the Federal United States started operating as a corporation doing business as the United States of America, Inc., and published its corporate charter as a look-alike, sound-alike “Constitution” we are all familiar with as the Constitution of the United States of America.

                This is a different kind of document (a corporate charter) as well as being a different document in and of itself. As part of this reorganization the Federal United States created “State franchises” for itself. These are “States of States” such as you find described in the Uniform Commercial Code’s Definitions section. They exist only on paper and are corporate franchises in the same sense as your local Dairy Queen is a franchise of the national parent corporation.

                Thus, you have the Ohio State (land jurisdiction) and you have the State of Ohio (sea jurisdiction) operating side by side, one being the natural jurisdiction owed the living people on the land, the other being a corporate franchise in the business of delivering governmental services and administrating the affairs of the Federal United States, its employees, and service contracts– all operating in the international jurisdiction of the sea.

                The Continental United States is under the plenary (complete) control of the living People– the so-called “birthright” American State Citizens. We each have more civil authority on the land than the entire federal government.

                The Federal United States is British-controlled and always has been.

                All those “courts” that you think are your courts are not your courts, if you are an American born on the land of the Continental United States. They are a mish-mash of corporate administrative tribunals and martial law courts operated by the Federal United States and the Washington DC Municipality, all operating in the foreign international jurisdiction of the sea.

                For example, THE SUPERIOR DISTRICT COURT FOR THE STATE OF ALASKA is run by the ALASKA COURT SYSTEM, INC., which is a federal corporation doing business as the “THE SUPERIOR DISTRICT COURT” — a privately owned and operated for-profit corporate franchise which is under contract to act “FOR” the STATE OF ALASKA which is another private, mostly foreign-owned corporate franchise of the UNITED STATES, INC., which is owned and operated by the IMF, which is an agency of the UNITED NATIONS, INC.

                Got that?

                Now, does the local Burger King franchise have any right to haul you over to the side of the road and demand that you produce a license? No? Not unless you are a Burger King employee. Does the local Sears franchise have authority to foreclose upon you and kick you out of your house? No? Not unless you have a valid fully disclosed contract with Sears allowing them to do that.

                It’s the same with the situation above. The fraud is that these yahoos are merely local franchises of national-level governmental services corporations—not the actual government at all, yet they are pretending to operate as public institutions.

                How do you know that what I am telling you is true— that these really are nothing but private, for-profit corporations? They are listed on Dunn and Bradstreet. They have Employer Identification Numbers. The “laws” they use in these “courts” are all under private copyright. Just open up one of their “State Statute” books and look. Since when are public documents subject to copyright? They aren’t. If these crooks represented the actual State, all the documents would be Public Domain.

                So, what kind of Judge am I?

                I am their worst nightmare. I am a Judge of the actual Alaska State, one of the Several States of the Continental United States. I occupy the actual public office and operate the actual Alaska State Superior Court.

                Note the difference:

                Alaska State = actual State on the land, actual public office, using actual Public Law and operating under the American Common Law, which is the law of the land.

                State of Alaska, STATE OF ALASKA, ALASKA = all various corporate franchises, private offices, operating under either administrative (purely private in-house corporate “laws”) or international law in the jurisdiction of the sea.
                ازدهار رأسه برعشيت

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                • #53
                  Some more blm/fed land grab could be happening via the national parks service that has more local ties. A Oklahoma ranch just over the border from me has been family owned since the 1800's and the trail/proposed park runs straight through it.

                  While the National Park Service says there is wide support for creation of Chisholm and Great Western National Historic Trails, one group that opposes the trails is the U.S. Cattlemen's Association.
                  "It's another burrito, it's a cold Lone Star in my hand!"

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                  • #54
                    ازدهار رأسه برعشيت

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Strychnine View Post
                      Killdozer. Seriously.
                      You have to wonder when that is happening next time.

                      Originally posted by BMCSean View Post
                      This whole time I was wondering why Black Lives Matter needed to graze.
                      LOL!

                      Originally posted by ftp View Post
                      The feds up to their usual bullshit tricks and tactics. Hopefully the people stand their ground and send a clear message to the feds.
                      I think it's inevitable. The problem is, that once that happens, it won't be isolated to one area or one ranch or once community.

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                      • #56
                        This situation could be the catalyst for the martial law that Obummer wants to see.

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                          • #58
                            now imagine her saying all that with a mouth full of D. and i doooo mean D.

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                            • #60
                              So who shot first and has the revolution started?

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