The Left’s Sirens Are Already Hinting Our Culture Wars Will End In Another Civil War

[DON SVO]

I’ll just say this... anyone thinking the far left won’t bring a hell of a fight are delusional. Two of the biggest firearm-hoarding individuals I know are left of left. I’m talking suppressed SBR ARs, Barretts, 300/308/338 variants, one has an M16 lower reciever, etc. This “the left hates guns” fallacy is going to cause a lot of issues. They have money and collect firearms, but they believe in gun control for those not of their ilk (high earning elitist left-of-left progressives).

If the shit hits the fan there will be a lot of dead conservatives That run into a hail of Antifa bullets, coming from guns that the left happily owns yet feels only they should possess.

[bubbaearl]

when you do your farming at krogers your fucked. the vast majority of city dwellers will die within days of a disaster . some who are sportsmen may get their family to safety and possibly survive . but hoodrats will die as soon as there is nothing left to steal. many will be stacked up like cord wood in the country.
until i went to boot i had never met anyone who never fished or went hunting .

[Gasser64]

I think our society may be an exception because of how it has evolved and become so pussified and reliant on handouts and entitled to participation trophies. We aren't talking about hardened settlers from 1776, self sufficient civilians in 1860, or men from 1941 who grew up shooting, hunting, and working tough jobs. We are talking about hipsters and millenials, people who are scared of knives and guns and expect a participation trophy. Several generations on both the right and left now expect handouts and want no responsibility for their actions, and worse yet they know nothing about the Constituion and their rights, nor do they care unless it is a right to a safe space or right to birth control. I just don't have a lot of faith in most of this society anymore.

Yes but you take all that away, and the bitter pill will ram itself down their throats. When/if that ever comes to a grinding halt, its either adapt, or die. They may be conditioned, but they're not that conditioned. They're still human beings and are capable of adapting to shitty conditions. The people who are telling them all these lies about how entitled they should be, would be dead or at least completely irrelevant. Replaced by new people telling them to suck it up and that all they were told was complete bullshit.

If you snatch that participation trophy out of their hands and say "you didn't earn it, you're fucked" then thats that. Watch this for reference. He talks about how with certain changes it would just turn around. I'm afraid your overly pessimistic view doesn't really reflect basic human nature.

[LANTIRN]

So you don't think they'll become killers. I think that when pushed too far, they will. I have serious doubts that somehow, for some reason, this society has become an exception to the rule that spans human history. When the people finally get pissed, they'll revolt. As is highlighted by Peterson, those groups are out there and they are not small. You're not talking about a few thousand, more like 10's of millions. They're just being quiet for the moment because they think their views are unpopular which is due only to the media's propaganda. And they can largely continue their way of life unmolested. That will only last so long, if the left gets their way. Because they do aim to change that. Trump beating killery is a pretty clear indicator of all this. They couldn't even win in a rigged game where they cheated. He's like a steam valve. He can relieve the pressure. If that fails, look out.

I think our society may be an exception because of how it has evolved and become so pussified and reliant on handouts and entitled to participation trophies. We aren't talking about hardened settlers from 1776, self sufficient civilians in 1860, or men from 1941 who grew up shooting, hunting, and working tough jobs. We are talking about hipsters and millenials, people who are scared of knives and guns and expect a participation trophy. Several generations on both the right and left now expect handouts and want no responsibility for their actions, and worse yet they know nothing about the Constituion and their rights, nor do they care unless it is a right to a safe space or right to birth control. I just don't have a lot of faith in most of this society anymore.

[AnthonyS]

Underestimating the left is exactly what makes this a real possibility. Too many think nah it can't happen, or it'll be over in minutes, etc.

[svauto-erotic855]

A civil war would likely result in a Chinese invasion

China (and the rest of the world) is terrified of the US Navy and they lack the ability to quickly move large amounts of troops and war materials around the globe. The US Marine Core is somewhat unique in that ability. I am not saying that it can't happen, I am saying that they will have to catch us with our pants down and get very lucky at the same time. In all likelihood a Chinese invasion of the US would result in a nuclear war.

[svauto-erotic855]

Do not under estimate the lefts potential for violence. They are the party of violence. You may consider them weak and cowards but a coward backed into a corner or attacking a target that they believe is much weaker than they are is a very dangerous thing.

Leftest murderous violence will happen much sooner then you think in this country unless they are checked very hard at every opportunity. If they ever sense weakness they will never back down. If they are trampled and killed every time they buck up it will shut them down. Using restraint against them is the mistake that is being made right now that ensures that the problem will keep growing.

Edit: As I mentioned in another thread the 60s protest movement did not end until the National Guard shot some people at Kent State. The protest movement stopped nearly instantly after that.

[Gasser64]

I think you are drastically underestimating the influence the left has had on the military for decades. I was in from '02 - '08, and there were a lot of left leaning people in back then. The military has been slowly pussified and pushed left, and I am not at all referencing the push for gays/trans in the ranks. We are taught never to obey an unlawful order, but it is almost beaten into us at the same time there is no such thing and don't question shit. Few understand the Constitution and there wasn't a whole lot of instruction on that. Also I do not think as many on the right would stand up. When Connecticut (I think) mandated gun registration the lines were long as fuck. Compliance by law abiding citizens has historically been high even with things like mag bans (Colorado seems to be an exception there). I see no reason to expect most of the right wing gun owners to stand up, I believe most will sit back and obey whatever new law is in effect, and most won't have any desire to fire on another human even if it is a mob. Sure there are events like the Asian shopkeepers in LA during the riots, and the Battle of Athens in 1946, but those are few and far between, and our society has fallen very far from where we were in 2001. Just my opiniom though, but I am just not that hopeful. Though i agree violent clashes will start to be more common, I just have a hard time seeing the law abiding right shoot fellow citizens these days.

So you don't think they'll become killers. I think that when pushed too far, they will. I have serious doubts that somehow, for some reason, this society has become an exception to the rule that spans human history. When the people finally get pissed, they'll revolt. As is highlighted by Peterson, those groups are out there and they are not small. You're not talking about a few thousand, more like 10's of millions. They're just being quiet for the moment because they think their views are unpopular which is due only to the media's propaganda. And they can largely continue their way of life unmolested. That will only last so long, if the left gets their way. Because they do aim to change that. Trump beating killery is a pretty clear indicator of all this. They couldn't even win in a rigged game where they cheated. He's like a steam valve. He can relieve the pressure. If that fails, look out.

[Sean88gt]

Time to pour some chlorine in the old gene pool.

[LANTIRN]

To clarify, for the first part of your reply, I wasn't saying me or another like minded individual, vs however many of those cowards would remain. The point I was attempting to make was that in the event that it was decided there would be such a conflict, the number that would remain, aren't going to fare well when the likes of us come after them. The number of those types of people that would be willing to fight, will be far outnumbered (and outskilled) vs our kind. Think of how many people regularly shoot and have an interest in, and like to study military tactics, just on this one board. Personally I love it. Then you've got the military guys who are not in service, to fill in the gaps. As I'm sure you already know they don't take kindly to regressive libbies. I'm convinced they wouldn't stand much of a chance. But they really don't have to, so far they've done a really good job of taking over valued institutions including much of the government.

We've got to take those institutions back. Once we do their numbers will dwindle down to much more manageable levels. Once nobody is telling a multitude of highly impressionable dopes that their way of life is evil. Ben shapiro made a good point about us vs them. He said that the american right's old enemy has been defeated and they've grown lax for decades. The soviet union. They've just got to wake up to the fact that they now need to fire back up their old ways and direct them at their new enemy, the american left. And if they ever realize that, they'll destroy the american left. To me it looks like this is finally beginning to happen. But we are in the early years of it.




Watch a lot more, he'll school you for sure. Watching his videos has certainly taught me a lot. Far as I'm concerned he's one of the great minds of our time, that is only sort of just now becoming known. He can put any person or group right down into their place and make it all make sense as to why they are there.

I think you are drastically underestimating the influence the left has had on the military for decades. I was in from '02 - '08, and there were a lot of left leaning people in back then. The military has been slowly pussified and pushed left, and I am not at all referencing the push for gays/trans in the ranks. We are taught never to obey an unlawful order, but it is almost beaten into us at the same time there is no such thing and don't question shit. Few understand the Constitution and there wasn't a whole lot of instruction on that. Also I do not think as many on the right would stand up. When Connecticut (I think) mandated gun registration the lines were long as fuck. Compliance by law abiding citizens has historically been high even with things like mag bans (Colorado seems to be an exception there). I see no reason to expect most of the right wing gun owners to stand up, I believe most will sit back and obey whatever new law is in effect, and most won't have any desire to fire on another human even if it is a mob. Sure there are events like the Asian shopkeepers in LA during the riots, and the Battle of Athens in 1946, but those are few and far between, and our society has fallen very far from where we were in 2001. Just my opiniom though, but I am just not that hopeful. Though i agree violent clashes will start to be more common, I just have a hard time seeing the law abiding right shoot fellow citizens these days.

[Gasser64]

You need to adjust your thinking fast. Are your wife, kids and friends all chuck Norris? Who do you need to protect? How will you protect them. Best way is to stay as far from these retards and BS as possible. Sadly I work in the middle of one huge ass city.

To clarify, for the first part of your reply, I wasn't saying me or another like minded individual, vs however many of those cowards would remain. The point I was attempting to make was that in the event that it was decided there would be such a conflict, the number that would remain, aren't going to fare well when the likes of us come after them. The number of those types of people that would be willing to fight, will be far outnumbered (and outskilled) vs our kind. Think of how many people regularly shoot and have an interest in, and like to study military tactics, just on this one board. Personally I love it. Then you've got the military guys who are not in service, to fill in the gaps. As I'm sure you already know they don't take kindly to regressive libbies. I'm convinced they wouldn't stand much of a chance. But they really don't have to, so far they've done a really good job of taking over valued institutions including much of the government.

We've got to take those institutions back. Once we do their numbers will dwindle down to much more manageable levels. Once nobody is telling a multitude of highly impressionable dopes that their way of life is evil. Ben shapiro made a good point about us vs them. He said that the american right's old enemy has been defeated and they've grown lax for decades. The soviet union. They've just got to wake up to the fact that they now need to fire back up their old ways and direct them at their new enemy, the american left. And if they ever realize that, they'll destroy the american left. To me it looks like this is finally beginning to happen. But we are in the early years of it.

planning to watch some more of Petersons youtube.

Watch a lot more, he'll school you for sure. Watching his videos has certainly taught me a lot. Far as I'm concerned he's one of the great minds of our time, that is only sort of just now becoming known. He can put any person or group right down into their place and make it all make sense as to why they are there.

[GhostTX]

I think there is a really good chance of this happening. The leftists will need to get in complete control of the government and get much better control of law enforcement and the military. I can't see how that second part happens but it has happened in other countries and just like in those other countries, the leftists in this country are being supported by outsiders.

Military is spiraling down already:

Retired West Point instructor decries 'a decline in honor, standards and meritocracy' at the academy
here is a huge scandal brewing at the United States Military Academy at West Point, in which the case of avowed communist and former cadet Spenser Rapone is only the tip of the iceberg.

Retired Army lieutenant colonel Robert Heffington wrote a shocking open letter to graduates of the academy that details the decline of standards at West Point that has led to an "embrace of mediocrity."

Heffington points to a radical decline in academic standards, discipline, and standards of conduct that made Rapone's graduation from West Point possible.

Daily Caller:

Heffington's eye-opening letter describes systemic problems at West Point that he says have led to a decline in honor, standards and meritocracy. The end result of said neglect, according to the lieutenant colonel, is a current "embrace of mediocrity."

"Every fall, the Superintendent addresses the staff and faculty and lies," he asserts. "He repeatedly states that 'We are going to have winning sports teams without compromising our standards,' and everyone in Robinson Auditorium knows he is lying because we routinely admit athletes with ACT scores in the mid-teens across the board."

Heffington states that he has personally taught cadets who are "borderline illiterate." In another section, Heffington laments what he refers to as West Point's "nonexistent" academic standards, and takes aim at the dean:

Cadets routinely fail multiple classes and they are not separated at the end-of-semester Academic Boards. Their professors recommend "Definitely Separate," but those recommendations are totally disregarded. I recently taught a cadet who failed four classes in one semester (including mine), in addition to several she had failed in previous semesters, and she was retained at the Academy."

"As a result," Heffington continues, "professors have lost hope and faith in the entire Academic Board process. It has been made clear that cadets can fail a multitude of classes and they will not be separated. Instead, when they fail (and they do to a staggering extent), the Dean simply throws them back into the mix."

Heffington also blasts what he considers an increasing politicization of the curriculum. He points out that "an entire semester of military history was deleted from the curriculum," but that there is an ever-growing focus on race, as well as "the narrative that America is founded solely on a history of racial oppression."

According to the letter, cadets scornfully refer to one American history course as the "I Hate America" course.

West Point's honor code used to be a point of pride for cadets and instructors. Not anymore:

The superintendent's duplicity, the dean's academic neglect, and a radical leftist shift in the curriculum are not the only problems plaguing the Academy, according to Heffington. The colonel also criticizes the Commandant of Cadets for failing to adequately enforce disciplinary standards.

Recalling an incident in which he reported a flagrant honor violation, Heffington states, "the Commandant of Cadets called my office phone and proceeded to berate me in the most vulgar and obscene language for over ten minutes because I had reported a cadet who lied to me and then asked if 'we could just drop it.'"

Heffington says in his letter that he was "duty bound to report the cadet's honor violation," and that he never found out why the commandant lashed out at him. "It seemed that he was simply irritated that the institution was having to deal with the case, and that it was my fault it even existed," Heffington comments.

Read the entire letter here.

Since the story of communist Spenser Rapone's stint at West Point became public, many of us wondered how this could possibly have happened. Only a precipitous decline in discipline and standards could account for Rapone being graduated from America's premier military academy. Heffington confirms this is so.

Senator Rubio sent a letter to the Army secretary, Ryan McCarthy, demanding that he investigate to find out if West Point military leaders were aware of Rapone's ideology before he graduated. Judging by Heffington's charges, it seems probable that they were.

No doubt they graduated Rapone in the name of "diversity."

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2017/10/retired_west_point_instructor_decries_a_decline_in_honor_standards_and_meritocracy_at_the_academy.html

[ceyko]

I think there is a really good chance of this happening.

I think it is unavoidable as of Obama's last election. Neither side thinks like the other. I mean, I have REALLY tried to understand the liberal thought process - but when you mix in reality - I lose the ability to follow it.


As far as not worrying about them.
I don't think it is wise to underestimate anyone or any group.

[Broncojohnny]

I think there is a really good chance of this happening. The leftists will need to get in complete control of the government and get much better control of law enforcement and the military. I can't see how that second part happens but it has happened in other countries and just like in those other countries, the leftists in this country are being supported by outsiders.

[Torinoman]

A civil war would likely result in a Chinese invasion